[{"id": 1525369, "authorName": "Fly_TWA", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/fly_twa/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Just returned from a trip through Southern Spain, and it's truly stunning, which begs the question- in such a beautiful place, why use a cement distribution depot as a backdrop? Cool car though.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1494361277, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1525364, "authorName": "cruz_dude", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cruz_dude/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "\"Oh Belvedere, come heah boy!!\"\n\nhttps://www.google.com/search?q=colonel+shuffle+belvedere&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi2jcHwz-PTAhVN9mMKHYW3D4UQ_AUIBigB&biw=1536&bih=771&dpr=1.25#tbm=isch&q=dog+gone+south&imgrc=_RmmNqfi-pEHXM:&spf=398\n\nSorry, I'll flag myself.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1494361307, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1525470, "authorName": "David_P", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/david_p/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Buy this and drive it through Italy to Poland and England for a Triple Belvedere!", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1494362413, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1525634, "authorName": "mb4design", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/mb4design/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Well done! But I'm holding out for the GTX version.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1494364917, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1526243, "authorName": "sackboy", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/sackboy/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Thoroughly Charming!!!", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1494387582, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1526247, "authorName": "sackboy", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/sackboy/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Please, please- NO SBC comments!", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1494387861, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1526257, "authorName": "rocketmaan", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rocketmaan/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "What a delightful little fliver! In just the right condition to drive about at the beach, although it does appear that a pile of pittle pads will be needed to keep the garage floor from becoming a hazard. Parking in the unpaved environment of a cement plant would certainly help absorb some of that oil though. Ifn this was already here in the states, I would buy this one, but I'm too reluctant to try importing a car (and deal with Calif. DMV) at this stage in life. It has so much CHARACTER. Wasn't a former clown car in a European circus was it? GLWTA! (BTW - what's SBC mean?)", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1494388552, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1526267, "authorName": "sackboy", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/sackboy/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@rocketmann- SmallBlockChevy", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1494389094, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1526287, "authorName": "rocketmaan", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rocketmaan/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "thanks Sackboy. I love this little car, has lots of patina and would be a bundle of chuckles to putt about in.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1494390308, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1526390, "authorName": "msmiranda", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/msmiranda/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Yup on the Chevy mill Sackboy. Carlos don't surf.\n\nIt'll need wood panels on the sides and a surfboard on the roof plus Cragars on the corners for that ! ;-)", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1494413235, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1526452, "authorName": "BondoBoy", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/bondoboy/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "OK, I gotta step in and totally shill for this car and these guys. They are the most straightforward \"foreign car\" mechanics (in Spain!) you'll ever meet and all around great guys. If they tell you something about this or any other car, you can take that word to the bank. \r\n I cursorily looked over the car because I'm such a fool for tiny Fiats from out of the past and I REALLY wanted to take it home with me but I just can't buy every car I want. If you are looking for a Topolino Fiat, though, you should snap this one up. And if you have any questions about the car or shipping it, just ask Ben or John; they'll shoot straight with you.", "likes": 5, "timestamp": 1494419955, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1526457, "authorName": "BondoBoy", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/bondoboy/", "bidAmount": 1953, "content": "$1,953 bid placed by BondoBoy", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1494420134, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1526459, "authorName": "BondoBoy", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/bondoboy/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "And, oh yeah, I always wanted to kick one off.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1494420169, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1526579, "authorName": "jackgosselink", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jackgosselink/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Great little car! I wonder why Fiat decided to install the radiator behind the engine...\nIt does give you more space to puta nice nose on a car.\nBut a friend of mine with a Topolino A complains about overheating....", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1494424758, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1526585, "authorName": "Bob_LIchty", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/bob_lichty/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "These are charming little cars. I have one we bought last year and it is a delightful little car. A similar one knocked it out of the park I think it was at Gooding's Pebble Beach auction about two years ago near $30k with the commission. Cool little car. I really like the two tone paint.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1494425123, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1526633, "authorName": "Mjsizemore", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/mjsizemore/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Apparently I'm not the only one with a fetish for collecting tiny old Fiats. While visiting the Nethercutt Museum in Sylman, CA I found a 500C Belvedere in the smaller select salon alongside a Maybach, Duesenberg, and Bugatti. It had the surfer theme going with faux woodgrain panel inserts. Also saw one in Prince Ranier's collection in the Palais Princier de Monaco among his Hispano Suizas, Delages, and Lamborghinis. His was similar color to this one, but not two-tone, as I recall.\nIf they're interesting enough for a 6-time Pebble Beach winner and a European prince, that's enough incentive for me to continue the restoration of my '54 Belvedere.", "likes": 5, "timestamp": 1494426558, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1526693, "authorName": "b5summit", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/b5summit/", "bidAmount": 2053, "content": "$2,053 bid placed by b5summit", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1494428622, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1526710, "authorName": "chiplamb", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/chiplamb/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Lots of fun here, another Spanish road trip for someone?", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1494428981, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1527180, "authorName": "willowen", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/willowen/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I kept looking at that engine \u2026 side valve in a 500C? Then I saw the ID plate: 500B engine, 500C chassis! That is just weird, but at least factory-original weird \u2026\n\nThis is a lovely old thing, though, even lovelier I think because it's not concealing its age. The hardware has that kinda old-farm-equipment honesty that some of us old farts find endearing. What that tells me is that if I had it I could use it for store runs and shows too, and almost certainly would.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1494443784, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1527478, "authorName": "Italclassic (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/italclassic/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Thanks for the kind words (Particularly BondoBoy- many thanks for the vote of confidence). \n\nThe little Topolino is what you see, very honest and completely charming. It\u00b4s one of those cars where the detail sucks you in, end up looking at brackets.....so be warned!\n\nThe car always fires up in an eager way, and is happy to shift, brake and steer. It does momentum, more than acceleration. Bear this in mind, if planning a road trip. \n\nOr Bring a Trailer? Perfect car to tow behind a camper van........", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1494446332, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1528457, "authorName": "jezzer", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jezzer/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Hey @rocketmaan. sackboy's been puttin' small-black-children in engine compartments for ages asking no one to comment. We'll get him on a tax loop-hole one day.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1494482257, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1528479, "authorName": "shakingthrough", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/shakingthrough/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Maybe I am the only one who didn't know this, but I was curious about the name Belvedere when Plymouth also had a vehicle with the same name. Per the dictionary it means \"a structure designed to command a view.\" So I assume the car's relatively large greenhouse with sunroof prompted the name which is pretty cool in my opinion. By the way Chrysler has a plant in Belvidere, IL, but that is spelled differently of course.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1494488594, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1529126, "authorName": "willowen", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/willowen/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "It is as I recall the name of a hillside fort overlooking Florence, or maybe the road going down past where the fort used to be. The one time I was there was 26 years ago, and all I remember was navigating my father-in-law down it on our way to town from the hotel \u2026 which I believe was also called Belvedere. The literal meaning of the word is Good View. The city in Illinois is actually more correctly spelled, at least in modern Italian \u2026 I think.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1494526652, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1529129, "authorName": "willowen", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/willowen/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "The postwar Plymouth models were named for fancy hotels, you might notice. \"Fury\" was the first breakaway.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1494526786, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1529826, "authorName": "Danl", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/danl/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "These have thermo-siphon water flow, like the Model T Ford. No water pump. Not much power, either, so in theory, not so much heat to reject. And certainly less water pump failures.\n\nThe idea behind the pusher fan and radiator toward the passengers was that the nose sheetmetal could go lower for a more aerodynamic front, kind of opposite of, say, a contemporary MG.\n\nHard to get a feel for the size of these by the photographs. They're tiny cars. Kind of a reduced scale model, with very familiar styling from many other cars.\n\nLovely car, thanks for bringing it here for auction!", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1494535185, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1530270, "authorName": "Italclassic (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/italclassic/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Just picking up on a few comments here. The car model is 500C and the engine is 500B , both are factory correct. The engine is ohv, however, and was the basis of so many cool etceterini wannabes in the early post war Mille Miglia (Stanguellini/Moretti/Bizarrini etc).\n\nAlso connected with this is Dani\u00b4s comment about the smallness, delightful because this is a perfect minature grown up car. Of course, in the Italy of the times the Belvedere would be the SUV version for the larger family. Small families up to 6 would be fine in the 2 door topolino.\n\nAnd, agreed, the Belvedere name would be usually associated with an upmarket hotel. Should you own such a hotel, this would be a tasteful and fun way to move luggage around.", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1494544207, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1530450, "authorName": "carmdgn", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/carmdgn/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "How much will it cost to ship the car to the US and what about registration", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1494552792, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1530692, "authorName": "Italclassic (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/italclassic/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@ cardgm Usually other commentators can contribute to this with examples from their experience, but it depends where you are and how you ship, As a ballpark, we are shipping a Giulia to LA/Long Beach next month Ro-Ro from Southampton UK and the cost is 983GBP/ $1550. East coast/Galveston is less, and currency deviations can change this. It would cost approximately $650 to ship the car from Alicante to a Ro-Ro port in Belgium/Germany/UK. The ship is actually the same and the route sails twice a month, the ship is at sea for approximately 24 days, depending on the port of departure. We would not recommend shipping a classic Ro-Ro from Spain which is possible from Santander or Barcelona, but the guys who load the ships in N Europe have a lot more experience with classics! \n\nA car as small and old as the Belvedere may also be a good candidate for a part container load direct from Valencia, but we need to know where you are before we can get a realistic quotation for that. \n\nSimilarly, a car as old as the Belvedere should be able to be registered anywhere, but CA is so difficult to predict that a CA resident should get local advice! The car has current and correct Spanish registration and traffic documentation so has legal Spanish title, and we would take care of the export paperwork and procedure at this end.", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1494572425, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1532998, "authorName": "Scott_P.", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/scott_p.-user/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Italclassic - appreciate your responsiveness! Could storage be arranged until sometime this Fall / around mid-Sept? Just trying to gauge possibilities. I think anyone considering this purchase (or any overseas classic, for that matter) has to build in an appropriate road trip! \r\nThanks!", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1494691823, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1533730, "authorName": "Italclassic (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/italclassic/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@ Scott P.\n\nWe would be able to store the car for a reasonable period whilst shipping details are worked out. We are a working garage, so space issues can sometimes crop up, would not like to make a long-term promise, but can store the car safely under cover nearby for approx $60/month.\n\nPlease note, an appropriate road trip in this car would be short and not involve many hills. It is very cute but more suited to driving round showgrounds than cruising with modern traffic. If you want to do Europe, we can sell you a nice Alfa!", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1494778656, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1534086, "authorName": "dmg", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/dmg/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "If this were already in the US I'd be all over it but the importing process worries me a bit. Perhaps the seller could give some advice. I live in the Northeast US a little South of Boston so probably the best port would be NY/New Jersey. What would you suggest?", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1494811067, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1534193, "authorName": "Phish", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/phish/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I think my Swedish uncle Nils' PV445 left something on that Italian vacation. I guess it never grew up.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1494823485, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1534225, "authorName": "Italclassic (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/italclassic/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Thanks DMG\n\nThe RoRO ships from Northern Europe basically do a route so each ship calls at these US ports in this order:\n\nBaltimore, New York, Norfolk, Brunswick, Miami, Charleston, Galveston, Jacksonville, Port Hueneme and Tacoma. \n\nProbably best if you decide which one is best logistically for you. We can\u00b4t comment on which is the easiest port for customs clearance etc, many people in the US use a local shipping agent to do this for them. Perhaps other commentators can share experience of the NE ports and local costs?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1494831654, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1534230, "authorName": "lordstephen911", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/lordstephen911/", "bidAmount": 4000, "content": "$4,000 bid placed by lordstephen911", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1494837606, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1534412, "authorName": "dmg", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/dmg/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Italclassic\nThanks for your reply. Do you mean that you would handle the transportation to a Northern European RoRo port since you mentioned before that you don't recommend RoRo from Spain?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1494858975, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1534733, "authorName": "Italclassic (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/italclassic/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@dmg\n\nWe can arrange the transportation to a North European port at the buyer\u00b4s expense (as usual, the auction price is for the car freshly serviced at our garage door). The cost may vary according to currency variations, but it is usually about 600\u20ac/$750 to transport a car from Alicante to UK/Belgium/Holland.\n\nIn fact, transportation within Spain is absurdly expensive, and to get the car to Spanish ro-ro port would probably be 400\u20ac/$500 anyway. And, correct, we would not recommend ro-ro from Spain because the Spanish ports mainly handle new cars from factories for export, they ship very few classics.\n\nIncluded in the sales price would be the administrative costs of getting the change of title/export documentation done.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1494872863, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1536197, "authorName": "Italclassic (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/italclassic/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@dmg \n\nI have a quote for ro-ro shipping Southampton (UK) to New York (like for like with Southampton LA quote earlier). It is 780 GBP (approx $1000 subject to currency fluctuation).", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1494949782, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1536307, "authorName": "Crazyas00", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/crazyas00/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "What a fun car! Er, SUV. Um, small van. Whatever you call it, it should put a big smile on your face! Easy to work on. Great MPG. I think with some clever route planning, you could get around for a decent trip. This is something I want. Need maybe not so much. But then this why we love cars!\n\nI would also like to say what friendly and informative folks at Italclassic have been. The info they have provided makes it seem pretty easy to ship and import any vehicle. Thank-You Guys!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1494955166, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1536367, "authorName": "Italclassic (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/italclassic/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Thanks very much (Mr?) Crazyas00! We do try!\n\nIt can feel like the shipping business makes margin by making a simple process seem complicated. In fact, it\u00b4s a very well-trodden path, a relatively simple tick list. The important thing is to comply with the requirements of the shippers in EU and the customs in US. They like that!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1494957233, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1536371, "authorName": "Crazyas00", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/crazyas00/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Yes, male.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1494957399, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1536565, "authorName": "Italclassic (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/italclassic/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Into the final hour, a nation readies its credit cards and steadies its nerve. \n\nSell the benefits of a 63 year old miniature station wagon. It won\u00b4t sell itself. OK....\n\nThe car is small. Which means your spouse won\u00b4t notice it.\nThe car is cute. Which means she won\u00b4t kill you if she does.\nThe car is light. Which means it can be deployed in self defence if she tries.\n\n\n\nEtc.", "likes": 6, "timestamp": 1494962293, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1536745, "authorName": "Italclassic (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/italclassic/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Some impressively steady nerves!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1494964225, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1536773, "authorName": "sasa1249", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/sasa1249/", "bidAmount": 4250, "content": "$4,250 bid placed by sasa1249", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1494964632, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1536778, "authorName": "mwillinger", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/mwillinger/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I like little cars like this. \n\nYou can get more of them in your garage.", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1494964709, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1536788, "authorName": "Anonymous", "authorUrl": "", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Reserve not met on 5/16/17 at $4,250", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1494964801, "type": "bat-bid-reserve"}]