[{"id": 1239399, "authorName": "normsled", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/normsled/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Some of the BEST photos I have seen on here in a long time. Nice job. Nice car", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1476214719, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239402, "authorName": "2112", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/2112/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Nice to see a 2nd Gen Z28 that is NOT an RS.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1476214841, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239407, "authorName": "Paul_Allen", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/paul_allen/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "How does a dealer in Utah sell a car with an Arizona title?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476215000, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239408, "authorName": "mb4design", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/mb4design/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "The zenith of the good old days.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476215003, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239419, "authorName": "johnnytightlips", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/johnnytightlips/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "bitchin camaro, bitchin camaro\ni ran over my neighbors\nbitchin camaro, bitchin camaro\nnow i'm in all the papers", "likes": 12, "timestamp": 1476215442, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239464, "authorName": "mr_smee", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/mr_smee/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "It is bitchin'! I think I'd have far more fun in this than a contemporary 911, even without the follicle alacrity to grow a mullet.", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1476216311, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239482, "authorName": "ChrisCushing", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/chriscushing/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@mr smee - I have enough follicle activity for a mullet, and I think I'd enjoy this too. \n\nThe mullet comment reminded me of my personal favorite Blipshift shirt: \n\nhttps://www.blipshift.com/products/party-in-the-back", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1476216573, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239493, "authorName": "David_P", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/david_p/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Damn, but these are great-looking cars. Terrific example of the attention to detail that GM put into their body sculpting.", "likes": 6, "timestamp": 1476216742, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239505, "authorName": "oldhornet", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/oldhornet/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I owned a 70 1/2 Z-28 RS, pale yellow with black stripes & interior, just after college in 1971.\nOnly ran well on good old Sunoco 260. Wish I still had it.\nThis looks like a very good example, although I never felt the need for traction bars.\nGLWTS", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1476216927, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239506, "authorName": "edwardc", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/edwardc/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Love it!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476216955, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239507, "authorName": "pontiacstogo", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/pontiacstogo/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Nice to see a transverse muffler on an F-body. You lose so much ground clearance with traditional mufflers.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1476216981, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239532, "authorName": "JohnnyB64", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/johnnyb64/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "4 u-bolts, 20 minutes tops. Then it's perfect.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1476217445, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239552, "authorName": "T-Bohn", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/t-bohn/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Johnnytightlips \n\" My folks bought me a bitchin Camaro with no insurance to match. so if I happen to run you down please don't leave a scratch\"", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1476217883, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239557, "authorName": "Frank_Garcia", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/frank_garcia/", "bidAmount": 5000, "content": "$5,000 bid placed by Frank Garcia", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476217913, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1239553, "authorName": "Frank_Garcia", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/frank_garcia/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Love that Barret-Jackson under the car shot...\nany chance we could see a burn out?\nGLWTS", "likes": 6, "timestamp": 1476217928, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239572, "authorName": "Raffi", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/raffi/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "This is one of the best looking American cars ever designed and built. The quality of the design, the complete freshness and simplicity of form was like nothing at this time. This series is always under appreciated for the design innovation, partly because it gets linked to the later 70's era cars that were so overdone. \n\nParked against a 1969 you really see the radical difference in body design, glass, and purity of form with this series. Designer and educator extraordinaire, Strother MacMinn owned just a few cars, among them a 120 Jag, but he retained this car (in black) for many years, citing it as one of his personal favorites.", "likes": 21, "timestamp": 1476218137, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239595, "authorName": "2112", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/2112/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Raffi; Spot on. Could not say it any better.\n\nAnd I bleed Ford Blue.", "likes": 5, "timestamp": 1476218368, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239627, "authorName": "ahgreen", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/ahgreen/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "This car is perfect. It embodies everything that was special about America in the early 1970's.", "likes": 5, "timestamp": 1476218833, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239645, "authorName": "sjphill", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/sjphill/", "bidAmount": 5100, "content": "$5,100 bid placed by sjphill", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476219110, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1239650, "authorName": "RSarchet2", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rsarchet2/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Paul Allen\nA Utah dealer sells a car with an AZ title by signing on the dealer line. The dealer never titles and registers anything in his own name. \n\nThe same would happen with an out of state title in Colorado, where I am. It happens here because I live 18 miles from Utah.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1476219170, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239652, "authorName": "JWRX", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jwrx/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Great looking car. It seems like the 70-73s are getting more popular than the 67-69s. I wish this were a 4 speed car, but other than that, no complaints.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476219188, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239643, "authorName": "Thomas54", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/thomas54/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Great looking car. Needs a split front bumper, manual and lowered a little.", "likes": 6, "timestamp": 1476219204, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239656, "authorName": "danman", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/danman/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "As terrific as these cars look, and I really do agree a VERY high point in 70s styling, can you believe Ford STILL sold 40-50 thousand MORE Mustangs?", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1476219320, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239706, "authorName": "TimSim", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/timsim/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "These are great cars and fun to drive with the LT1. In the late 70's a friend let me drive his... what a blast! It would chip the tires hitting 2nd gear.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476220356, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239755, "authorName": "prohome48", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/prohome48/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Very nice. were SS's available with a 10 bolt rear end? GLWTS!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476221273, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239757, "authorName": "kingpenn", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/kingpenn/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Great looking car! I'm no expert but from what I remember Z/28's were only available with 4 speeds until 1973? Although you could special order items. They also had the Z/28 only floor mounted go pedal. GLWTS", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476221280, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239788, "authorName": "Blue_Ridge", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/blue_ridge/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "A former boss of mine bought one of these, new, for his 16-year-old son. Within a few weeks the kid had a 19-year-old girlfriend to fill up the passenger seat. HIs nickname was Lucky Bastard.", "likes": 23, "timestamp": 1476221958, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239800, "authorName": "unclewill", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/unclewill/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "This beautiful car deserves some Caltracs in place of those JC Whitney traction bars - period correct or not!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476222277, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239837, "authorName": "StuckinTraffic", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/stuckintraffic/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Utah, beautiful country. \nOh yeah... nice car! \nI'm a split bumper fan, but this car is sweet.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476223145, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239845, "authorName": "Dazed_and_Amused", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/dazed_and_amused/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "In my high school fantasy world I would have had this and the '71 Mach 1. \n\nI can thank my parents for saving me from that terrible fate. I got the 63 Dodge Dart instead.", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1476223610, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239857, "authorName": "2112", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/2112/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Hah, @Dazed and Amused; My dad pushed the 6 cyl Dart on me too. No way. I drove a beat to smithereens Mustang instead. A least it had an A code 289.", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1476224091, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239874, "authorName": "Blue_Ridge", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/blue_ridge/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@2112, Did we grow up in the same house? Did we have the same dad? All of this time I thought I was an only child.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1476225431, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239875, "authorName": "methodjason", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/methodjason/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "My first car was a regular-grade '71 Camaro with the 307, a vinyl roof and 186,000 miles on the clock. While I've moved on to a succession of imports, I've always wondered what it would be like to get another Camaro now that I'm older, wiser and (most importantly) have an actual credit score. This Z28 seems like it was pulled directly out of those daydreams. \n\nIf I actually had the garage space I would be very tempted by this. It's lovely. But since I don't, I can only watch and say good luck with the sale!", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1476225574, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239884, "authorName": "Chebby", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/chebby/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Great looking car indeed. \n\nOne little bitty thing that has always bothered me is the regular front end (above) has a little too much blank space between the grill and headlights\u2014especially with that giant honking turn signal below it\u2014while the blank valance on the RS models makes them look like a bottlenose dolphin with a chubby chin. \n\nI don't know what would look best to me\u2014having both the RS and regular turn lamps together, or a 1970 Pontiac Bonneville style circular aluminum vent in the blank space. \n\nYes, these are the things I think about.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1476226047, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239893, "authorName": "RandyP63", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/randyp63/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Man this is such a nice car, I owned two of these a long time ago. In my opinion, the best looking Camaro, and the solid lifter sounds of the LT-1 make it even better.", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1476226498, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239904, "authorName": "Niteroi", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/niteroi/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I have done business with this dealer a few times, very honest guys.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1476226976, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239906, "authorName": "West-Coaster", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/west-coaster/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@pontiacstogo\n\n\"Nice to see a transverse muffler on an F-body. You lose so much ground clearance with traditional mufflers.\"\n\n\"But...but...FLOWMASTERS, bro!\"", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476227193, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239916, "authorName": "Rock_On", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rock_on/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Don't fret. You can get a dual inlet, dual outlet traverse mount Flowmaster for these cars.", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1476227715, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239957, "authorName": "Steve_P", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/steve_p/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "\"All instrumentation, controls, HVAC, and electronic accessories are said to operate as they should.\"\n\n'cept there's no AC in that HVAC.", "likes": 5, "timestamp": 1476230142, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239994, "authorName": "Mazza", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/mazza/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Paul Allen , I, who is not a dealer, would actually hold a car's title in limbo by having it in no one's actual name, but physically belonging it to me for insurance purposes. Dealers do this to sell the car, I would do this for cars that I would only keep for a summer, and then trade/sell, like my Porsche. I bought this one locally, but I've already sold cars with an Ontario title, in Quebec. It allowed me to bypass insurance costs and inspection issues. I hear it's getting harder and harder to do this now on a private level. I only see dealers doing this now.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1476232317, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1239997, "authorName": "the_onion", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/the_onion/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I had a 701/2 Z28 black on black 4 speed LT1, I'm sitting at a light idling and the engine stops running. 40K miles on the car, guess what it was? The nylon timing gear stripped, bent many valves. the nylon gear was used to keep the engine less noisy. I was just lucky I wasn't at a higher RPM when that happened. Loved that car other than that.", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1476232557, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1240014, "authorName": "Brian_S", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/brian_s/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Nice looking Camaro. I would lose the traction bars immediately. Great colors, too bad it isn't an RS split bumper.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1476233307, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1240018, "authorName": "CF_Nick", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cf_nick/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "The stock rear end ratio for a 1971 Z/28 was 3.73:1, optional was 4.10:1.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1476233414, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1240027, "authorName": "Dazed_and_Amused", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/dazed_and_amused/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "It's not in my nature to be contrary (ahem), but I personally like the traction bars. It adds a little more street racer badass to an already badass car. \n\nIt's like Pamela Anderson with the barb wire tattoo. My mom wouldn't like it, but I do.", "likes": 14, "timestamp": 1476234007, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1240029, "authorName": "Mazza", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/mazza/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@dazed and amused , did these one too have the split frames? If so, many put in the beams to keep the car straight.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476234143, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1240031, "authorName": "Dazed_and_Amused", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/dazed_and_amused/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Mazza - Dunno. In the day it was claimed to reduce rear axle windup on takeoff, but I am not qualified to make much more of it. \n\nExperts: You're up.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1476234337, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1240062, "authorName": "Passion4cars", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/passion4cars/", "bidAmount": 8900, "content": "$8,900 bid placed by Passion4cars", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476236638, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1240064, "authorName": "Rock_On", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rock_on/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "These are unibody cars with a bolt on front subframe. I think that you are confusing traction bars with subframe connectors which can be either bolted or welded on.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1476236776, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1240087, "authorName": "BitNippy", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/bitnippy/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Love the Gen 2s. My Dad is building a pro touring 72 Z28. Retired and going back to his younger years. Traded his mid life crisis for it, a 996 C4.\n\nI was a GA to NorCal backseat rider in a base 70.5 back in 72. He wanted to build it into a pro touring then, but sadly it sat in early stages of the build through my childhood. I remember it was Autumn Gold, had Herb Adams suspension bits, fat Goodyears over white Buick GS wheels, he was going to paint it white. Recaro buckets NIB sitting on the roof and a small block 400 sitting on a stand next to it, machined and ready for assembly. \n\nMy parents split, the car needed to go and Mom had a fire sale. I think he got the motor. I was 14 at the time and in hindsight wished I'd had the resources to keep it. Still wonder what happened to it. \n\nHis new one is a beast. Supercharged 4sp, and says it handles and stops like an M3.. he has compared it his wife's E92. He let me drive it a few weeks ago, grinning ear to ear!", "likes": 5, "timestamp": 1476238549, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1240114, "authorName": "sackboy", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/sackboy/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Dazed&Amused- the Traction Bars are on there to stop \"axel-bounce\" that is very common under heavy acceleration. It is sometimes referred to as \"Wheel-Hop\" ! The bars are NOT factory, and yes- they certainly do work! Common on lots of 60`s Hi-Po cars that have rear leaf springs. sackboy", "likes": 5, "timestamp": 1476240438, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1240117, "authorName": "sackboy", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/sackboy/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "This will bring on the cookie-DOUGH ! Nice crate and nice presentation! GLWTS !", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476240688, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1240128, "authorName": "Stokes2500", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/stokes2500/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@johnnytightlips: Where else do you get 'tire track on my lawn' rhymed with 'Tony Orlando and Dawn' ? Pure poetry only found in America.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476241731, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1240132, "authorName": "IB007", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/ib007/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I dig the car but I wish the video would have showed us a little something about that TH400 shift kit. It would have been cool to hear it chirp 2nd gear.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476242126, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1240146, "authorName": "JIMMY", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jimmy/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "In 1979 I had a 70 z/28 , orange with black stripes, 4.10 posi, it was a beast. We could burn the rear tires off in one night of thrashing. People who knew what it was would not race us, but everybody else we beat repeatedly until we ran out of tire. Completely stock, no headers, no traction bars just rear air shocks so we could fit serious big tires for the track. That LT-1 would rev to about 7500, it sounded great with it's transverse muffler. Automatic makes this a nice cruiser but the LT-1 never wants to cruise.\nI like the full bumper, it makes the car look wider. Mine would do donuts if you just thought about it.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1476243838, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1240164, "authorName": "wtsane", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/wtsane/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Everything my imaginary youth was, in one package.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1476245994, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1240168, "authorName": "Superdessucke", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/superdessucke/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Tempted to bid just for the traction bars alone. Didn't Ford stick these on the mid-80s Mustang GTs stock?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476246945, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1240181, "authorName": "500_PM", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/500_pm/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "R&T ran their first \"10 Best\" feature in '71; this was the only American car on the list. It transcends the genre, as they say. Whomever they are.", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1476248917, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1240199, "authorName": "915fan", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/915fan/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Although I cannot say I dislike the 1st generation Camaro I greatly prefer the 2nd. When GM gets around to doing the next update on the modern Camaro I hope they will use the 2nd gen as inspiration.", "likes": 6, "timestamp": 1476255027, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1240236, "authorName": "DrCrusher", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/drcrusher/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Very Nice Car! As a former 71 Camaro owner myself (but not a Z28) I can't tell you how great it is to see the correct bumper matched up with the correct front clip. Absolute pet peeve of mine to see those bumperettes on solid nose cars. Hope you get at least a $30K bid for this beast.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1476272589, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1240273, "authorName": "runaway_Jim", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/runaway_jim/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "915 fan, much agreed. This one was built in the Norwood, Ohio plant. I toured this plant a couple of times when I was a kid and it hooked me on the industry", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1476276635, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1240276, "authorName": "Surfender90", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/surfender90/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Second generation Camaros have been my absolute favorite since high school.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1476276759, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1240282, "authorName": "Schmat", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/schmat/", "bidAmount": 10000, "content": "$10,000 bid placed by Schmat", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476276895, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1240314, "authorName": "Deano", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/deano/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Had a '70 1/2 Z-28, stock 360hp LT1 engine with only mod of Hooker Super Comp headers. T400 had a B&M Transpack, stock 3:73 12-bolt posi. On slippery BFGs and no traction bars I ran 13.70's at 106 at OCIR (Orange County International Raceway). This was in 1981. These cars are a lot of fun. GLWS", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1476278609, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1240317, "authorName": "Carbuff21", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/carbuff21/", "bidAmount": 11000, "content": "$11,000 bid placed by Carbuff21", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476278694, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1240332, "authorName": "Dr_Randy", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/dr_randy/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "The Camaro of my high school dreams totally has traction bars. Mine would also be jacked up in the rear end at a stupid level with giant 50 series tires in the rear and old school Cragars all around. It would be idiotically loud and Julie would be in the front seat. We would cruise endless loops through the Sonic on Lindsey and every kid in the school would wish they were me.", "likes": 12, "timestamp": 1476279201, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1240379, "authorName": "Graybeard_ZR1", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/graybeard_zr1/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "To me, this is the best looking of all Camaros. Yet it has some ugly wheels and tires. Much prefer the earlier \"Rally\" wheels.\r\nThere have been some seriously beautiful Camaros over the years. Unfortunately the newest design can't compare.\r\nMaybe I'm just getting too old.", "likes": 5, "timestamp": 1476281423, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1240386, "authorName": "sackboy", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/sackboy/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Graybeard ZR1 - +1 on the too old deal, but I DO like these factory wheels. The Rally`s are great- and best on a `67 Vette, for sure. I had a `71 Vette with this motor, and I could keep up with all but the hotter 427 Vettes! It would give a 427/390hp Vette ALL it wanted! This is going to make someone a great toy! GLWTS ! :-) sackboy", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1476281736, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1240387, "authorName": "RD911T", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rd911t/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "My first car was a hand me down base 70 1/2 Camaro. It only had 2 options, 307 V8 and AM/FM Radio. I painted it 76 Corvette Yellow, swapped the 3 speed for a 4 speed Muncie, put on headers, Edelbrock hi-rise manifold, Holley 4 bbl, a cam, electronic ignition and some knock off mag wheels, but I wanted Cragers so bad! It was still a worn shitty 307 but it would go sub-15 in the 1/4 at St. Louis International Raceway. Boy did I hoon in that car! Dreamed of a Z/28!", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1476281749, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1240443, "authorName": "200mph", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/200mph/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Mine was a 71 Z28, Mulsanne blue with white stripes, one of my favorite all-time cars. We rallied it, autocrossed it, and drove to Trans Am and Nascar races in it.\nNot many nits to pick here... Vega steering wheel not stock with base interior, maybe with upgraded interior though.\nMetal emblem on rear spoiler should be a mylar sticker of the same design.\nZ28 was only Camaro available with 15\" wheels. These were the stock wheel, attractive but heavy.\nAutomatics were available on gen 2 Z28s. No AC on 1971 cars.\nI'd love to own this, but lack of a third pedal is a deal-breaker for me.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1476284646, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1240510, "authorName": "Frank_Garcia", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/frank_garcia/", "bidAmount": 12000, "content": "$12,000 bid placed by Frank Garcia", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476287702, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1240511, "authorName": "Frank_Garcia", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/frank_garcia/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Can't. Stop. Drooling.", "likes": 7, "timestamp": 1476287724, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1240528, "authorName": "audimotion", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/audimotion/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I'm by no means an American muscle guy, but this is VERY nice!", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1476288731, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1240534, "authorName": "2112", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/2112/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Frank Garcia; Me too.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1476288862, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1240542, "authorName": "rfsalter", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rfsalter/", "bidAmount": 12250, "content": "$12,250 bid placed by rfsalter", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476289104, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1240565, "authorName": "LarryM", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/larrym/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I came of \u201ccar age\u201d about the time the 1st gen Camaros were introduced in 1967 so they\u2019ve always been my favorites, but can still very much appreciate a nice early 2nd gen like this one. Silver (of which I\u2019m not normally a fan) looks good on these, but they look absolutely beautiful in the dark blue or dark red colors that were available then. I read somewhere that the inspiration for the Gen 2\u2019s styling was the Ferrari Lusso Berlinetta; if you look closely you may be able to see its influence, especially in the front end. Horsepower ratings dropped in 1971 mainly due to lower compression ratios so if I were the lucky buyer I\u2019d be looking to install some pop-up forged pistons and get back to 1970\u2019s rating of 360 HP.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1476289996, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1240637, "authorName": "RossABQ", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rossabq/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Surprised there are no comments on the slapper bars... \"period correct\" but OMG... \r\nJust like with the 928's these cars just aren't right with an automatic. Change to a Muncie 4-sp and Hurst shifter, it totally transforms them.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1476293157, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1240719, "authorName": "Deano", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/deano/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "This appears to be a nice car and well presented. Price wise it will be interesting to see where it ends, as it's a base level Z-28 with no RS, no deluxe interior...not even power steering. I've owned both stick and auto early Gen 2 Camaros, so the slush box doesn't bother me as much (especially the T400 = super strong). Barking 2nd gear on every manual shift can be intoxicating. Rowing through four manual gears is arguably more fun but you'll be quicker in the auto. The slapper bars do help traction and do fit the period-correct look (if that's what you're after). A set of Cal-Track bars are cleaner and slightly less obtrusive...and they work better, too. With the right shocks you can virtually eliminate wheel hop and ditch the slapper bars. Again, good luck to the seller...nice presentation and the car appears very clean.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1476297555, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1240782, "authorName": "The_Chucker", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/the_chucker/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "As the owner of a '73 Z28, I'm really geeking out on this. Originally a 4 speed car, I put a Tremec 5-speed in mine and it totally changed the dynamic of the car for the better.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1476300397, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1240977, "authorName": "2112", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/2112/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I think it is a big plus not to be an RS. No ungainly (IMO) extra lights between the grill and headlight an no Endura nose extension.\n\nDeluxe interior and P/S would be nice, but not necessary. I typically prefer manuals but I have been a lifelong fan of the stirrup shifter so I would be ok with the auto for that reason.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1476303545, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1241073, "authorName": "Frank_Garcia", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/frank_garcia/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@ Deano - This car has no A/C, can you think of a good after market unit? (Possibly 'Vintage Air?') Do you see any other goodies to add? I can't stop looking at this Z/28. Thx.", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1476304972, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1241333, "authorName": "helilog", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/helilog/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I had the Corvette with this engine and it had no a/c or power steering. I think they weren't available with the LT-1. Is that correct? The lower compression version, this one, is the one to have today due to fuel concerns. The 11:1 version, the one I had, does not like 92 octane modern gasoline.\n\nThe 1970 1/2 model with the smaller rear spoiler is a cleaner design but this one 'll do. The pinnacle of pony car design past or present, for sure, and possibly of any post war car.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476309556, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1241376, "authorName": "mwillinger", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/mwillinger/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "To the winning bidder: \nDo yourself a favor and go to Eden, Utah to Blacksmith Garage to pick up the car. The guys there couldn't be nicer, and the cars they have for sale are first rate and generally drool-worthy. Not to mention the mountain scenery - Eden is a ski resort town. \n\nI won my 1979 BMW CSi Euro from them in a BaT auction back in April, flew to Utah, and drove the car home to Virginia. I remember (I think) seeing this Camaro there when I picked up my car. I didn't check it out very closely (distracted by other cars) but I can safely say you can bid with confidence. They don't sell any junk at Blacksmith Garage. \n\nGLWTS.", "likes": 8, "timestamp": 1476312465, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1241463, "authorName": "daleb", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/daleb/", "bidAmount": 12500, "content": "$12,500 bid placed by daleb", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476318675, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1241782, "authorName": "james_dean_RIP", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/james_dean_rip/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "My second car was a 70 Camaro with 350, auto. Had headers with thrush mufflers bolted on and no tail pipes. Had the yellow traction bars and N50's on the rear mounted to Cragar S/S rims. Typical late 70's high school kid set up. Camaro was my favorite even though I has a 55 chevy before it and a 70 cutlass convertible after it. Would love to have this car if I could spare the change.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1476360610, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1241849, "authorName": "Deano", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/deano/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@helilog, the early Gen 2 Z-28's did not offer A/C. I believe either '72 or '73 was the first year. Engineers said the high strung nature of the LT-1 would throw the belt. I can attest that my 360hp 11:1 compression version would pull to past 6,500rpm and still want more. Power steering was optional (not sure why...could be a bit beastly without it and on that long a wheelbase).\n\n@Frank Garcia, Vintage Air is always a good option. For me, not a lot to add/mod on this one. I'd just make sure the T400 is wound tight for firm shifts...would also respond well with a 2,400-2,800 rpm torque converter. Like I've said, I'd dump the slapper bars in favor of either better rear shocks (double adjustable QA's, if they clear) or Cal-Tracs.\n\nAnother legit Z-28 tip-off that no one else has mentioned....the eight grand tachometer and the rear factory sway bar. I really like this car...would be bidding if RS. GLWS", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1476364630, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1241860, "authorName": "Carbuff21", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/carbuff21/", "bidAmount": 12900, "content": "$12,900 bid placed by Carbuff21", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476365454, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1241990, "authorName": "BarneyFife", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/barneyfife/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "When the 2nd gen Camaro debuted (70 1/2) the street thought it was the new Corvette", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476371466, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1242482, "authorName": "Stratos", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/stratos/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Just found out how expensive BaT-recommended Intercity enclosed transport is. I'm sure they're worth it, but...\n\nHas anyone had experience with any good long-distance open transporters? I'd need a reliable one for drop-off on Long Island, NY. Thanks in advance -", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476389990, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1242788, "authorName": "2112", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/2112/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Car haulers are swamped lately. That means expensive. I think all of them are going to be pretty expensive so choose one on quality of reputation.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1476392947, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1243206, "authorName": "KGW", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/kgw/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "General question: would this car (or a '60's Mustang) hold up as a fun commuter vehicle? Currently driving a Raptor, so common sense is not a key factor. :) 18 miles each way in LA. I just can't go the Econo-box route.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476406004, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1243304, "authorName": "JohnnyB64", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/johnnyb64/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Sorry to be off point here, but earlier on, johnnytightlips quoted a refrain from the 1980's song \"Bitchin Camaro\" by punk rock group \"The Dead Milkmen\"; to me a funny reference and (I thought) quite complimentary of this beautiful car and its owner. The comment was then deleted and labeled \"not constructive\". I know some might not get the reference but why was this comment deleted as not constructive? No one will \"get\" every pop culture reference due to our wide range of life experiences. IMO the \"not constructive\" vote should be reserved for more offensive or abusive comments, no?", "likes": 13, "timestamp": 1476413439, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1243689, "authorName": "Mdiamant", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/mdiamant/", "bidAmount": 13150, "content": "$13,150 bid placed by Mdiamant", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476455393, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1243784, "authorName": "Stratos", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/stratos/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "JohnnyB64 Totally agree. \n\n\"Not constructive\" is meant to keep abusive, political, and offensive comments off the threads, so we can all enjoy ourselves without spikes in blood pressure.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1476460483, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1243830, "authorName": "Deano", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/deano/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@KGW, I live in So Cal and this would certainly be an interesting/fun commuter car. But to really be bulletproof (and comfortable) in traffic and our summer heat, I would suggest adding aftermarket A/C, a big block radiator and ditch the factory centrifugal puller fan for a pair of electric pullers. They make several kits that include the pullers with the right shroud that fit the BB radiator like a glove. Budget unlimited = swap in a power-assisted Saginaw steering box and pump (mounts to the lower driver side and doesn't have the long snaking hoses like older Fords do). You may build-up some nice forearms with the manual box...the 108\" wheelbase with wider front tires tends to favor PS. Just my experience...your mileage may vary.\r\n\r\nWithout A/C I'm sure this car runs fine in traffic as it sits (it had to back in the day). But A/C can add challenges to keeping everything at a proper temp. Easier to do today with all the aftermarket goodies available.\r\n\r\nAnd kudos to the seller for the video...a well presented car all-around. Still curious as to the condition of the headliner...mentioned was original but no pics. If I hadn't already \"been there, done that\" TWICE on this generation of Camaro, I would be bidding. GLWS", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1476462829, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1243911, "authorName": "KGW", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/kgw/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Deano, thank you. Very helpful. My last car of this era was a 1970 Roadrunner. The combo of 4 speed, no A/C and no power steering meant the car stayed in the garage pretty much all the time. If I jump back in, it'll need to be something that I will actually use. This could be it.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476466927, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1244003, "authorName": "2112", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/2112/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I think the upgrades would make for a better driving experience in hot climes, but be sure to make it look as period correct as possible for this car.\n\n Day 2= thumbs up emoji. Day 4 or 5? not so much.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1476469780, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1244299, "authorName": "daleb", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/daleb/", "bidAmount": 13400, "content": "$13,400 bid placed by daleb", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476477029, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1244839, "authorName": "Frog", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/frog/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "An additional reason that you could not get A/C on a Z-28 was because they had an aggressive solid lifter cam. When the A/C compressor would kick on at idle, the engine would kill. Not enough vacuum to run at idle with that additional pull on the engine. Same reason that you could not get air on any of the high horsepower solid lifter engines of the 60's muscle cars.", "likes": 8, "timestamp": 1476494042, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1244937, "authorName": "Kaleuclint", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/kaleuclint/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Really nice spec -- used to run its cousin the Monaro GTS in same color scheme back in the day (well, just a bit later than the day). Similar powertrain with Frigidaire AC too. Would love to own this.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476501810, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1245446, "authorName": "Mazza", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/mazza/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@frog , I believe it is the same reason why you couldn't get AC on any BB C2 Vettes except for the L36.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476560984, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1245467, "authorName": "carstruck", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/carstruck/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Agree w/ above comments , great looking iconic car. They'r a bit loose and springy due to the combo of separate front sub-frame and HuGe long doors ( bring a wide garage..) and no B pillar. First railroad crossing will show u what i mean..I'd add subframe connectors, power steering ( be sure to get a quick box, several were available) and a 5 speed, then head out hooning.. And an a/c gltbs", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1476562441, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1245504, "authorName": "Jp14", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jp14/", "bidAmount": 13650, "content": "$13,650 bid placed by Jp14", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476566105, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1245666, "authorName": "Vladimir", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/vladimir/", "bidAmount": 15555, "content": "$15,555 bid placed by Vladimir", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476582183, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1245677, "authorName": "Jp14", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jp14/", "bidAmount": 15805, "content": "$15,805 bid placed by Jp14", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476582906, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1245692, "authorName": "Vladimir", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/vladimir/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Hi, what should be the fair price for a car like this one?", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1476584161, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1245695, "authorName": "Vladimir", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/vladimir/", "bidAmount": 22222, "content": "$22,222 bid placed by Vladimir", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476584394, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1245710, "authorName": "Jp14", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jp14/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I am thinking $40k?", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1476585601, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1245792, "authorName": "driveporsche911", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/driveporsche911/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Beautiful car. ..great gm design all around. ..love these camaros", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476607269, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1245901, "authorName": "KGW", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/kgw/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Vladimir, since the identification pad numbers have been machined off the block one would expect a reduction in value. Also, there are no receipts/ documents for work performed. All that being said, this appears to be a great car.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1476628131, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1245905, "authorName": "200mph", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/200mph/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I greatly prefer this front end to the RS bumperettes. This full-width bumper emphasizes the car's width, while the RS makes the grille opening look like a huge, gaping maw.\n.\nBTW, the low rear spoiler mentioned earlier was standard. Option D80 got you this 3-piece rear spoiler and front air dam, both developed to help the Chapparal Camaros in SCCA Trans Am racing.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1476628433, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1245908, "authorName": "Mazza", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/mazza/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Vlad, as much as it's a nice example, block ID numbers have been removed, and someone like myself would stray from such an example as I would spend my days having to justify to people that it's a matching car, yet the most crucial physical proof is missing. I'd say at 22,222, you're about there. Maybe 25k, but only because it's a Z28.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1476628512, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1245946, "authorName": "Stratos", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/stratos/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@KGW & Mazza - I read through everything, looked over the photos - help me out on weekend when I'm a bit fried and possibly missing something that's right in front of me. \n\nBlock ID machined off? I feel like an idiot for asking - thanks in advance.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476633392, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1245987, "authorName": "KGW", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/kgw/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Hello Stratos, I reached out to the seller and inquired about the engine among other things. I've shared with the community here what he relayed to me. I appreciate his honesty. I think it's a great car and believe that this info should be factor in determining value. Hope this helps.", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1476638006, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1246088, "authorName": "Mazza", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/mazza/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Stratos , on these engines, there is a date code and a production number stamping in front of the passenger side cylinder head stamped on the block. This determines if the block matches the vehicle. Often times, it happens then when an engine is rebuilt or the heads are squared, the stamping is removed. \n\nPerfect timing for me to write this, as I went to see a 1962 Corvette yesterday evening that the owner claims to be matching numbers, but I saw no stamping on the block claiming to be so, and as much as the car looked great and it could have been believable as it was dressed as a period correct engine bay, I could not pull the trigger as the stamping wasn't there, and for obvious reasons the owner did not want me to remove the heads to check the IDs to confirm it was a 300HP model.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1476647152, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1246112, "authorName": "2112", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/2112/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "33% deduction for the block stamping seems heavy to me since this isn't a super high dollar car to begin with.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1476649271, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1246141, "authorName": "Stratos", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/stratos/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Mazza, most appreciative of your answer, thank you. I knew of the location but could not figure out how said ID was removed based on the pictures ( @KGW thanks for your clarification regarding this). \n\nFor a dealer to admit this demonstrates not only their integrity but also respect for the BaT community-knowledge base.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1476651689, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1246150, "authorName": "Mazza", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/mazza/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@2112 , I've seen many of these pass me by at 35-40k CAD, so maybe 25-32k USD, so 25k is more than far for a car without a stamped block. There's a lot of Camaro collectors out there, and they'll call this out easily. \n\nI like my vettes, and if I find one for 10k cheaper that has no proper stamping on the block, or missing tags, or an unmarked transmission, I will not buy it. It's not to be stern about my cars, but I always like the assurance of knowing 100% that my cars are legitimate. For collectors, 95% certainty is just not enough. \n\nPutting all this aside, as @stratos said, props to the seller for mentioning that to the person who contacted him/her, because the BaT community will point this out. This just shows how transparent the seller is, so the buyer doesn't need to bite their nails when the car arrives.", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1476653210, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1246179, "authorName": "2112", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/2112/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "My guess it will be RNM @ $25K", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476657058, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1246187, "authorName": "2112", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/2112/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Fantastic article on forging stampings and documents;\n\nhttps://www.hemmings.com/magazine/mus/2008/08/Just-a-Second---1968-Chevrolet-Camaro-Z-28/1676538.html#PhotoSwipe1476657545544", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1476657628, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1246348, "authorName": "vdavie", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/vdavie/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I've been down this road. A 69 L78 orange camaro with all docs. Window sticker ect. Turned out to be fake. Took a 20k bath on that one. Same with a LS 5 black Chevell. On that one I did get a full refund from the guy but only after I stared telling the story on all the muscle car boards. I won't do anymore \" numbers matching \" cars. Not saying at all this is the story with this car. I also have a 71 RS z28. They are great cars.\n\nVince", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1476679933, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1246362, "authorName": "2112", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/2112/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@vdavie; Vince, thanks for having the guts to share that. I think even many of the experts can be deceived as the level the counterfiters have risen to is pretty high. That article proves the level one can go to.\n\nMy point? Maybe we need to to less emphasis on #'s matching and more on the quality of the car. This one is a great example of a nice car that is not #'s matching.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1476683890, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1246413, "authorName": "blumpkin", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/blumpkin/", "bidAmount": 25000, "content": "$25,000 bid placed by blumpkin", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476706667, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1246505, "authorName": "Stratos", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/stratos/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Getting back into this game after many years away from it, after reading what @vdavie shared and @2112 suggested, I don't know why I'm a bit shocked at counterfeiting behavior with older muscle cars - but I suppose those kinds of people filtering in are always a risk whenever a market becomes inflated (IMO). Thanks very much for making me more aware. To clarify, though, I DO NOT regard this seller in \"that\" category. \n\nThat said, after giving kudos to the seller for revealing the lack of block ID stamping to KGW, I wondered why this wasn't revealed at the beginning of the auction. So I emailed him. No reply yet. Also wondering why no participation in the thread. Is my logic is off?\n\n@BitNippy Enjoyed your story - I can surely identify with your dad's stage in life.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1476715273, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1246516, "authorName": "Deano", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/deano/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "At the end of the day, you have to ask yourself what you're willing to spend for any car and if that value is worth the enjoyment you seek. Speaking from experience, the cars I have enjoyed the most were non-numbers matching because I could drive it like I stole it and not worry about punching a block. Buy a car with solid bones, and if it's a legit Z-28 or has the right pedigree but the wrong, factory-installed engine, then value accordingly...and drive the wheels off it. Because you can't take it with you and you're really only being a temporary caretaker.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1476715783, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1246567, "authorName": "Stratos", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/stratos/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Deano You're spot-on, and that's a truly liberating way to look at it. I'm tired of worrying about anything, let alone a car. Just want to enjoy driving and looking at them - \n\nMakes me appreciate the driveability of pro touring mods even more.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1476719094, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1246655, "authorName": "blumpkin", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/blumpkin/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "No, you guys should all stay away from this one, It's probably not worth owning... I'm just willing to \"take one for the team\" and let this old wreck sit in my driveway. ;)", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1476724519, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1246685, "authorName": "2112", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/2112/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I appreciate Pro-Touring too, but that is just throwing modern tech at them. Of course it works fabulously.\n\nBut I really appreciate the day 2 upgrades where existing tech of the day was used to improve performance. Examples being manifolds & carb tuning, relocated control arms or rolled fender lips to get wider rubber underneath.\n\nUsing what you had available back in the day.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1476725708, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1246787, "authorName": "Stratos", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/stratos/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Shawn from Blacksmith Garage was kind enough to answer my email, but no mention as to whether they knew about the block ID question. Transcript of his reply follows - hope this helps bidders: \n\n\"Thank you for your question. The guy who sold us the car gave us its history and confirmed it had its original motor and that it had 26,000 original miles on that motor. \n\nHe did not have documented evidence for these things but there is NO (his caps, not mine) evidence they are not true either. \n\nFrankly, we did not press for these things or worry about them for a couple of reasons:\n1. the car is gorgeous and 2. because in our opinion we don't feel that matching numbers is as important for a muscle car of this value. Of course, if it was a six-figure car...it is a different story. Indeed, this car will likely sell for a price lower than the cost of the restoration. \n\nPeople in the BaT community are of course entitled to a different opinion and if so will no doubt bid accordingly. Hope this helps. Please call me if you have other questions.\"", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1476729952, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1246798, "authorName": "nobrakes", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/nobrakes/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "These Gen 2 cars are my favorite, right up to 1981. The early ones like this LT1 equipped car with chrome bumpers are the total package for classic usable American muscle. The final years are just as sweet with their stylish bumper covers, four wheel disk brakes, highway gears and T-Tops.\r\n\r\nAs for the matching numbers, just assume it's not especially at this price level. These cars are begging for a Tremec 5-speed or 700R4 overdrive slushbox swap anyway.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1476730502, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1246948, "authorName": "Blacksmith_Garage (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/blacksmith_garage/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Hey guys thanks for all the comments. They are all welcome. Sorry for the delay we were away this weekend at the Barrett Jackson in Vegas. \n\n\nAs mentioned by commentators ... When doing a rebuild on a Chevy 350 a block is often decked to ensure a good, flat surface so that you can achieve a good gasket seal. The number pad often gets machined off during that process. \n\n\nWhen we bought the car, we knew we couldn't prove anything the seller told us including the history, the 26000 original miles or the matching numbers because the block ID was machined off but (in our opinion) it wasn't a big deal because it was a relatively low value muscle car and because it was drop dead gorgeous. \n\nObviously the lack of a proven history would be a lot more important if this was a six figure (or higher) car. \n\n\nAlso, for what it is worth, just because we cannot prove the history does not mean it is not true.\n\n\nWe will let everyone in the BAT community decide what the impact on value should be.\n\nAs you guys may have noticed from previous auctions Blacksmith Garage is very diligent about using the \"finger point \" to identify dents, scratches and other imperfections in our cars. You will notice there are none in the photo roll above. The car really is as nice as it looks. We know there is not a lot of time left but if you can, please come look at it or send a local inspector.", "likes": 6, "timestamp": 1476735015, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1247487, "authorName": "MrClean", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/mrclean/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Numbers aren't everything. \nIf it's a real honest car, that you're wanting, buy it - enjoy it. Most likely get your money back and have 2X that in fun while you have it. \nI have no interest in this lovely car at the moment. Probably kick myself later. \nLooking for a rough around the edges one to do an LS swap. Just for fun. \nRemember the car Hobby is Fun.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1476751288, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1247502, "authorName": "DBAOne", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/dbaone/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Split bumpers would be priority one. The shape of these is simply perfect. Especially in Formula form.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1476752018, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1247508, "authorName": "2112", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/2112/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@MrClean; um exactly.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476752543, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1247590, "authorName": "Vladimir", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/vladimir/", "bidAmount": 26666, "content": "$26,666 bid placed by Vladimir", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476757681, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1247598, "authorName": "Vladimir", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/vladimir/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I do not give up so easy, 29999 is my limit, that engine sound great, look great, I had a dream already with this car unfortunate 30k bit will kill my dream, let see what happen.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1476758248, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1247777, "authorName": "Stratos", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/stratos/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Vladimir I'll put in the extra buck, fly out to Utah, and drive it anywhere you want. I'll even pay for the fuel and promise to keep it under 100 mph :)", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476792475, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1247825, "authorName": "-T.", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/-t.-user/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "When GM designers set out to resdesign the Camaro some years ago, with a retro theme in mind, I wish they had had pictures of this car. This body is aging every bit as well as Raquel Welch.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1476795452, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1247863, "authorName": "Deano", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/deano/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Stratos, with a 3.73:1 gear and no overdrive, carry a deep credit card for the fuel.\r\n\r\n@-T, this car or Raquel Welch circa \"10,000 B.C.?\" You wouldn't have to ask me twice.\r\n\r\nIMHO, the car is priced in the sweet spot. Good luck @Vladimir...hope you get it.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476796957, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1247919, "authorName": "carstruck", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/carstruck/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@prohome48 10 bolt corporate rear diff is the correct one for this car. \nI agree that the non numbers car would allow owner to have a lot more fun, but a big part of that is that you are able to buy it for significantly less, all other factors being equal. Despite what seller suggests, even @ this level, a matching block/ trans/diff makes a significant difference. I think it's close to the money now. Anything past 10 G a decade ago had to be proveable matching and in great shape.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476800077, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1247934, "authorName": "Ol_Caddie", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/ol_caddie/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Good to see this classic getting appropriate bids.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476800698, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1248359, "authorName": "Mazza", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/mazza/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Vladimir has an interesting way of bidding. Straight forward, no holding back. \n\nI can appreciate that. Good luck Vlad, I doubt anyone will outbid you at that price.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476819441, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1248587, "authorName": "SCRAPPYDO", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/scrappydo/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "This is my all time favorite Camaro. Having had a 74, 77, 79, this second gen with the full front bumper is my heartthrob bowtie car.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476822925, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1248589, "authorName": "mwillinger", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/mwillinger/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "If I was going to go for a Camaro, this would be the one. You aren't as likely to see one coming from the other direction, and to me, this is the pinnacle of Camaro styling.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1476822959, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1248591, "authorName": "SCRAPPYDO", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/scrappydo/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "once again I am 100% in agreement with you mwillinger", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476822982, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1248594, "authorName": "2112", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/2112/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I think it worth every penny of the dollar over Vlad's top limit.\n\nI just don't have the room. Ugh. Love this car.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476823047, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1248596, "authorName": "SCRAPPYDO", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/scrappydo/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I would probably lose the traction bars though, aside from that, its dead nuts perfect", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476823077, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1248599, "authorName": "2112", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/2112/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I will guess it takes $35 to meet reserve.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476823139, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1248600, "authorName": "SCRAPPYDO", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/scrappydo/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "quick put a Porsche sticker on it!!!", "likes": 8, "timestamp": 1476823157, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1248603, "authorName": "Anonymous", "authorUrl": "", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Reserve not met on 10/18/16 at $26,666", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476823201, "type": "bat-bid-reserve"}, {"id": 1248604, "authorName": "2112", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/2112/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Scrappydo; LOL", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1476823206, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1248605, "authorName": "Mazza", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/mazza/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Vlad the man!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476823209, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1248606, "authorName": "VTguy", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/vtguy/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Knew it would not go for that price...", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476823229, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1248607, "authorName": "SCRAPPYDO", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/scrappydo/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Well drat, so much for dreaming of the best screaming deal ever", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476823237, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1248602, "authorName": "mwillinger", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/mwillinger/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "It looks like October is the month of @Vladimir.\n\nEDIT: Oops. Spoke too soon. \nBut still, four cars this month. So far.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476823267, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1248610, "authorName": "Mazza", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/mazza/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Wait, what... 3 straight RNM today.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476823268, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1248613, "authorName": "Mr_Persnickety", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/mr_persnickety/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "work it out boys. I'll pitch in the extra dollar if it has to hit 30k. good luck Vlad", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1476823276, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1248619, "authorName": "blueboss302", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/blueboss302/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Muscle cars have really gone flat. Easy money is in your neighbor's scruffy e30 series BMW !\nThis is a nicely done car but not \"correct\", blah blah blah.....", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1476823515, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1248632, "authorName": "The_Chucker", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/the_chucker/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "For one this nice, I'm surprised it wasn't bid higher. I would have kept it too. Find another one as they say.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476823870, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1248649, "authorName": "Tabasco", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/tabasco/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "This is a great car. The engine sounds tight. Does this engine use hydraulic lifters. I just gained 4 garage spaces (without lifts). I hope to see this back.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476824065, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1248731, "authorName": "Deano", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/deano/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Would have been well-bought at $26.6K. Fair for both B&S is around $30K tops. After all, it is a pretty bare Z-28 (non-RS, auto trans, standard interior, no PS). Yeah, it's in terrific shape overall (for an 8-year old restoration) so it does have that going for it. Maybe the seller will give Vlad an early holiday discount and move it out of his shop? Seller won't do better on eBay and would have to take his chances at Mecum/BJ, including freight and premiums. Bird in the hand...", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476826098, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1248836, "authorName": "vdavie", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/vdavie/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "In the end this car is just a sum of its parts. Without docs what you have is a nice 71 Camaro. Not an SS or an RS. In my opinion this was fair money for the car. \n\nVince", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1476829168, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1248901, "authorName": "Lagunatic", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/lagunatic/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Too bad about the A/T", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476833215, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1249011, "authorName": "mikebike", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/mikebike/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "guigiaro of ital design said the 2nd generation camaro was the best american design ever...", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1476838652, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1249397, "authorName": "Vladimir", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/vladimir/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Sorry I been busy, yes October is my birth month, 18, the day, 1963 year and 12:00 the time, If seller agree, I will honor my word and paid the 29,999.99 I mention here before, beleive that price is reasonable, paper, history, is important, I have a 69 Z28, 4spd, tuxudo black but engine soes not match, it is a 302 and 1969 engine but no one will pay as a it has the matching number big diferents on price.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1476882603, "type": "comment"}]