[{"id": 3668430, "authorName": "AlexBert", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/alexbert/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Rare opportunity to finally meet The Man with the Midas Touch.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1569248181, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3668433, "authorName": "austin_alfa", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/austin_alfa/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "A nice honest car. I've always admired them-unfortunately from afar. 60 some years after their introduction, they still have the ability to stop traffic and remain a practical car", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1569248295, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3668440, "authorName": "ttv566", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/ttv566/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "beautiful car!! i commend you for keeping the original US style headlights..i is the twin of mine, i have a 72 with the same colour and almost same mileage..love it. good luck with the sale, somebody will be very happy..", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1569248398, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3668441, "authorName": "unclewill", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/unclewill/", "bidAmount": 4638, "content": "$4,638 bid placed by unclewill", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569248429, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 3668443, "authorName": "neverenoughgold", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/neverenoughgold/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Ahh... the French! Where would America be without them?", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1569248557, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3668581, "authorName": "Tuinsma", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/tuinsma/", "bidAmount": 5000, "content": "$5,000 bid placed by Tuinsma", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569252487, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 3668650, "authorName": "Zizu", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/zizu/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "J\u2019adore!", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1569253826, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3668682, "authorName": "AlexBert", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/alexbert/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "24 carats gold dazzling solid Takeoff.\nSeller must be very thrilled.\nGLWTA.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1569254382, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3668706, "authorName": "West-Coaster", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/west-coaster/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I love tracking down where dealerships and other car facilities used to be years ago. That address for Citroen Cars Corporation on Beatrice was literally right down the block from where BMW maintained some sort of west coast tech headquarters for many years. \n\nA friend who grew up in nearby Westchester used to see the coolest BMWs (cars and motorcycles) being tested around the area. I think they moved up to the Oxnard area sometime in the late 1990s or early 2000s. \n\nAlso, the address of the selling dealer is a typo on the sales invoice, but that street is in downtown SLO. \n\nGLWTS", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569254868, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3668791, "authorName": "tintinmilou", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/tintinmilou/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I'm confused. The Pallas line was upholstered in leather, not cloth.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1569256743, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3668801, "authorName": "danieltiffany (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/danieltiffany/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Hi folks, let me add a few details about the car's history. It is essentially a one-owner, blue plate, California car: never having changed hands (until three months ago, when I purchased it), the vehicle will be sold with a facsimile of its original California title document and the original 1970 dealer invoice, along with the original owner\u2019s dealer service book, documenting its regular service inspections (beginning a week after it was purchased). Received as a college-graduation gift in 1970 by the son of a wealthy citrus grower, the same individual (who spent his life running the family ranch) has driven and meticulously maintained the vehicle for nearly half a century. This DS has spent its entire life in the dry climate of the Central Valley in California, housed in an air-conditioned garage, and never driven in wet weather. With 66,385 miles showing on the odometer, it has been driven continuously, though sparely\u2014and registered without interruption--for the last 50 years. (Only 200 miles or so have been added to the owner's original mileage.) The car has been maintained throughout its life by some of the best Citroen mechanics in California, including Lon Price and Hein Gysin\u2014who made periodic \u201chouse calls\u201d from Santa Cruz and Los Angeles to the service the car at the original owner\u2019s residence near Bakersfield, CA (and who can testify to their work). Every feature of the car, from interior details to engine components, from color scheme to Citroen badging, is original and historically accurate (a flawless U.S. edition of the model). With exception of the rearview mirrors on the front doors, not a single feature of the car has been altered or modified. It is certainly one of the most original and pristine Citroen DS Pallas sedans to come on the American market in many years--an example fit for a museum.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1569257003, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3668810, "authorName": "chapron67", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/chapron67/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@tintinmilou leather was a $400-$500 option only available on the Pallas. I think most USA Pallas\u2019 had leather though... they probably brought most of them in \u2018fully loaded\u2019. \r\n\r\nThis looks to be a truly amazing DS.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1569257128, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3668923, "authorName": "Frank_Barrett", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/frank_barrett/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Somehow this is one of those cars that you can look at and easily understand that it was maintained well and kept clean and protected by a proud owner. The underside looks solid, and given where it lived, that's no surprise. Did the US cars have headlight covers?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569259191, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3668974, "authorName": "Quen047", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/quen047/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Frank_Barrett \n\nNope, US DOT regulations enacted beginning with (I believe) the 1968 model year meant that US-market Citroens had the uncovered non-adjustable headlights seen here. Other European cars that lost their previously-covered headlamps at the same time include the Jaguar XKE and the Alfa Romeo Duetto.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1569260311, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3669250, "authorName": "mbaum", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/mbaum/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "+1 on how amazing this car is. Colors are completely correct and this indeed looks like a very unmolested and original car. Not easy to find in this condition and with this provenance. Colors are great with AC318 color and \"Or\" interior (Likely a bit sunbleached). Even better if it would not have been repainted but this way, it will make for a care free cruiser.\n\nTons of super useful info at Yves' \"Le nuancier DS\" website. Link below is even to the AC318 color page on this site. https://www.nuancierds.fr/AC%20318%20Sable%20M%E9tallis%E9.htm\n\nAssuming the mechanicals are up-to-date - It would be super helpful to get a more detailed account of recent work performed and by whom - and Hein and Lon, the experts mentioned come highly admired in the Citroen world.\n\nSuper tempting as the car is already in LA ...", "likes": 5, "timestamp": 1569263391, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3669407, "authorName": "Citfan", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/citfan/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Just curious as to why you are selling the car after such short ownership...", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1569264547, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3669441, "authorName": "3Pedalonly", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/3pedalonly/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Beautiful car even if Citromatic sounds like a late night infomercial for a juice maker\n\nBut wait, there's more...", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1569264807, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3669608, "authorName": "230West78th", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/230west78th/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Can I ask what the small knob on the right side of the radio with the Phillips screw below it, controls? Thanks.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569265766, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3669752, "authorName": "WAH", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/wah/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@danieltiffany. Very nice. Thank you for bringing this to us rather than keeping it for your collection!", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1569266444, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3669755, "authorName": "WAH", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/wah/", "bidAmount": 5678, "content": "$5,678 bid placed by WAH", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569266456, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 3669772, "authorName": "OttoZohn", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/ottozohn/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Citromatic transmission by Ron Popeil.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1569266533, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3670012, "authorName": "DSsuper", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/dssuper/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@230West78th\r\n\r\nDon't know what that particular button is but it should normally be a standard cigarette lighter.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569267792, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3670923, "authorName": "unclewill", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/unclewill/", "bidAmount": 6500, "content": "$6,500 bid placed by unclewill", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569276607, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 3671154, "authorName": "Beaglebreath", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/beaglebreath/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Pic #90: Would that be the suspension height lever next to the parking brake? I just love these cars, and I've hardly even seen one, much less driven one. There's nothing else like them, and this one appears to be extra special. Best of luck.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1569283742, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3671448, "authorName": "citrogek", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/citrogek/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Same color interior as on the formerly mine '70 DSpecial (from same dealer in SLO.) It's \"vielle d'or\", or \"old gold.\"", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569293052, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3671629, "authorName": "Frog23", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/frog23/", "bidAmount": 7000, "content": "$7,000 bid placed by Frog23", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569304692, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 3672129, "authorName": "danieltiffany (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/danieltiffany/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "230West78th\r\n\r\nI'm not sure what the original function of that knob might have been: it's integrated into the original dash--not something added--and it turns, but doesn't appear to produce any direct or obvious effects when it is turned.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1569336177, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3672358, "authorName": "jfxogara", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jfxogara/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@beaglebreath you are correct. Three driving settings plus what I will call \"super high\" and \"super low\" for changing a tire with the included strut.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1569340871, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3676342, "authorName": "chardon", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/chardon/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Bonjour Messieurs \r\nla boite de vitesses est \u00e0 quatre rapports m\u00e9canique , le changement des rapports se fait \" hydrauliquement \" ,nous appelons cela en France : \" boite hydraulique \", il n'y a pas de p\u00e9dale d'embrayage ! c'est tr\u00e8s agr\u00e9able \u00e0 utiliser , le levier de vitesse sert aussi au d\u00e9marrage , je viendrai bien la chercher chez vous , je vis en Suisse , la mienne \u00e9tait gris m\u00e9tallis\u00e9 ,int\u00e9rieur cuir noir .\r\n excusez moi pour le fran\u00e7ais ,je ne pratique pas assez bien votre langue !", "likes": 10, "timestamp": 1569419756, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3677711, "authorName": "gfmahler", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/gfmahler/", "bidAmount": 9000, "content": "$9,000 bid placed by gfmahler", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569437436, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 3679381, "authorName": "aussiemo", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/aussiemo/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "One of the photos appears to show a crack in the windshield on driver's side. Is the windshield chip/crack free?", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1569452146, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3679475, "authorName": "danieltiffany (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/danieltiffany/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@aussiemo\r\n\r\nHello, if you're referring to photo #46, that silver line is an errant reflection, not a crack. I can guarantee that the entire windshield is crack free. I've asked the auction moderator to upload two additional photos (which will appear at the very end of the photo gallery), showing the driver's side of the windshield from both the inside and outside of the car.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1569454674, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3679759, "authorName": "Fjord-tii", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/fjord-tii/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@danieltiffany /Having grown up in Bakersfield, I cant recall ever seeing a Citroen, though owned a \u201879 GSX in France ca. mid-80\u2019s and loved the hydroneumatic suspension. Very tempted, love these cars. QLWA.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569461785, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3679793, "authorName": "bringatrailer", "authorUrl": "", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Additional photos have been added to the end of the gallery.\n\n-BaT", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569463006, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3679792, "authorName": "danieltiffany (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/danieltiffany/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "#fjord-tii\r\n\r\nThe car spent most of its first half century in Strathmore (near Bakersfield)\u2014on a ranch at the center of 300 acres of orange groves.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569463006, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3680027, "authorName": "WAH", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/wah/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@chardon parlez-vous anglais?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569469429, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3680062, "authorName": "DanOlson", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/danolson/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Here\u2019s a rough translation for my American cousins.\r\nMerci Chardon pour les informations sur votre d\u00e9esse\r\n\r\nThe gearbox is four-speed mechanical, the gear change is \"hydraulically\", we call it in France: \"hydraulic box\", there is no clutch pedal! it's very pleasant to use, the gear lever is also used to start, I'll come and get it at home, I live in Switzerland, mine was metallic gray, black leather interior.\r\nexcuse me for French, I do not practice your language well enough!", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1569471000, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3680221, "authorName": "chardon", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/chardon/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Hello DanOlson \r\nThanks for the translation ! \r\nChardon", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569492128, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3680226, "authorName": "chardon", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/chardon/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Message for WAH . i learn english at school ! I think that i cannot speak easily with somebody , have a good day . Chardon", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1569492658, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3681111, "authorName": "WellMAKEroom", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/wellmakeroom/", "bidAmount": 9200, "content": "$9,200 bid placed by WellMAKEroom", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569516147, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 3681355, "authorName": "Neilv", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/neilv/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Latest photos a welcome addition to remote parties. Had a chance to view and test ( am likely bidder, not a mechanical expert), thanks to the very cooperative seller. Have to say a very unusually well preserved and original example and patina. Delightful how the car glided over the famous LA street water channel dips ( why am I breaking bones with a clumsy 2014 Bimmer wagon on the same..not talking M Sport version either ). Particularly saw the all important spheres levitate up and down without hesitation and the dedicated Braking subsystem a welcome advance over other lesser Citroens. Certainly no blemishes on the windscreen or any other glass surface to worry on. Light grease and wd40 squirts on door hinges and seat belt inserts should handle the inconsequential noticeables. Loved the 3point seat belts in this gliding chariot ...and the citromatic a deal-maker if you live in busy areas. Was the primary reason for the inspection not having experienced till now and sold on it. Very properly and throroughly represented example.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1569520239, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3681818, "authorName": "danieltiffany (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/danieltiffany/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "To handle the intense summer heat of California\u2019s Central Valley, the original owner installed the special \u201cdesert\u201d radiator (from a DS 23) to keep things on the cool side", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569523811, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3684041, "authorName": "Dandanbell58", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/dandanbell58/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "what is best when you like a car... to keep silent", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1569548314, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3684150, "authorName": "403bub", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/403bub/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "The mystery knob next to the ash tray is a \u201ccigar lighter\u201d. See the invoice. Usually it had an engraving of the heating coil. A replacement??", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569552343, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3684429, "authorName": "danieltiffany (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/danieltiffany/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "#403bub\r\n\r\nThe mystery knob on the dash could be what controls the \u201cTwo-Speed Electric W/S Wipers\u201d listed on the invoice. It doesn\u2019t look like the knob could have replaced a lighter. Not sure.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569565694, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3685623, "authorName": "chapron67", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/chapron67/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I\u2019ve seen a knob like that on DS\u2019s that control the front and rear speaker balance.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569605570, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3685657, "authorName": "metric", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/metric/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@chapron67 : In picture 95 can be seen the slot to the right of the speaker grill through which the original front-to-rear balance control was once located. The balance control which has a knob of similar appearance to that in picture 92 was used (optionally) on cars of 1966 through 1969. This control was mounted in the lower panel of the dash, near the passenger's knees.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569606228, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3688212, "authorName": "cordoc", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cordoc/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "To the seller, does the car run and stop OK? Can you drive it at highway speeds?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569639589, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3688219, "authorName": "cordoc", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cordoc/", "bidAmount": 9300, "content": "$9,300 bid placed by cordoc", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569639915, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 3688611, "authorName": "vintner22", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/vintner22/", "bidAmount": 9400, "content": "$9,400 bid placed by vintner22", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569674280, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 3688787, "authorName": "ulflei", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/ulflei/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Seller I just have to ask what motivated you to buy the car and then sell it after 4 months and only 200 miles driven ?", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1569679054, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3688791, "authorName": "CARETECH", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/caretech/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "DanOlsen, very good job on the translation, I just added a few tidbits, hope you like it. \r\n\r\nGood Day Sirs, \r\nThe gearbox is a 4 speed mechanical transmission(manual), the gear changes are done hydraulically, referred to in France as a Hydraulic box, as it has no pedal to engage the clutch! It is very pleasant to use, the gear lever is also used to take off. I would gladly come to your home and get it from you, I live in Switzerland, mine was metallic gray, black leather interior. Excuse me for my French, I do not practice your language well enough!\r\n\r\nMerci, M. Chardon, pour vos commentaires et surtout n\u2019ayez pas peur de continuer \u00e0 communiquer en anglais!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569679186, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3689047, "authorName": "Ddejan011", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/ddejan011/", "bidAmount": 9750, "content": "$9,750 bid placed by Ddejan011", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569685483, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 3689199, "authorName": "danieltiffany (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/danieltiffany/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "As the auction heads into its final days, I want to offer some additional observations to give a better idea of the overall condition and history of the car. All of the car's mechanical systems are in excellent working order: the suspension system, the transmission, the engine, the brakes, all of the bearings, the radiator, and so on. All of the interior and exterior lights are functioning properly, as well as all of the gauges (except for the clock, which is not working). The top of the dashboard is entirely free of cracks or crazing of any sort, nor are there any cracks or pitting in the glass. All the windows roll up and down completely and without hesitation; the window cranks are tight. The trunk, hood, and the four doors all open and close tightly, without any creaking, rubbing, or impediments. The body panels are aligned and completely straight. Even more surprising, nearly all of the external rubber work and mechanical seals show no signs whatsoever of cracking or deterioration. The chrome and stainless steel trim is bright (though not without a few scratches and abrasions). The badging is complete and historically accurate. The car (trunk, body panels, undercarriage, rocker panels, engine compartment) shows no signs of rust that I can detect--except for two small areas of superficial corrosion on the front valence (see photographs). There are no dripping leaks, though there are several damp spots in the hydraulic system: around the rear brakes; one spot under the back wall of the trunk; and evidence of an older leak on the front undercarriage around the brake accumulator (which was replaced last year--halting the leakage). At present, the car \"needs\" nothing--a new owner would not find it necessary, as far as I can tell, and according to its present mechanic, to do any immediate repairs to put it in good running order. The oil was changed 200 miles ago. And the car is currently registered in California through September of 2020.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569690030, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3689247, "authorName": "danieltiffany (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/danieltiffany/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I would also like to address more precisely the originality and historical accuracy of the car. First, the car has \"matching numbers\": the VIN number on the plaque in the engine compartment (see photograph) matches the VIN stamped on the edge of the frame under the hood. The originality of the car extends even to its tires: the car is presently running a set of vintage, low-mileage tube-tires--specific to the period and essential for a complete concourse restoration. As I have indicated in my earlier comments, the car is entirely stock and historically accurate--with the exception of three components (as far as I can tell): the door mirrors and the radiator (which I have already mentioned), but also the exhaust pipe, which does not appear to be identical to the type used on the original DS. There is also the question of the \"mystery knob\" on the dash mentioned in previous comments. As period details, the cloth interior is especially noteworthy: it retains the original period patterns and colors, including the ivory, stitched-vinyl door panels (see photographs). The interior rear-deck (with the audio speaker) is entirely free of tears, cracking, or fading (evidence of the car's life-long garaging). In addition, the car's paint color (Sable Metalisee) was one of two colors reserved in 1970 solely for the luxury Pallas model (which offered increased sound-proofing, a back-up brake-fluid system, and more elaborate chrome trim). The car was given a careful and expert re-spray in its original color some years ago, and the paint surface remains glossy and rich (with some minor chipping at the edges of the roof panel and the nose of the hood--as noted in the photographs). The color of interior carpets remains vivid, with a generous nap (but also with some soiling on the driver's side floor). The elegant, black, one-spoke steering wheel retains its soft luster. Even the rare \"bullet\" mounting socket of the aerial on the roof--often missing--is intact.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569692643, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3689252, "authorName": "vintner22", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/vintner22/", "bidAmount": 10000, "content": "$10,000 bid placed by vintner22", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569692756, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 3689300, "authorName": "danieltiffany (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/danieltiffany/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Finally, I would like to describe generally and provide documentation of the car's maintenance and repair history. As I mentioned in earlier comments, the car has been serviced throughout its entire history only by Citroen experts--indeed, by some of the most esteemed and knowledgable Citroen mechanics in California, who made periodic \"house calls\" (requiring travel of several hundred miles) to service and make repairs on the car at its rural location in Strathmore, CA. In addition to the original dealer maintenance pamphlet, meticulously recorded by the original owner, the car has repair invoices going back some 26 years--mostly concentrated in the 1990s--detailing costs and parts for many different types of work (including a valve job), performed by Lon Price, totaling some $6,000 during that period. The most recent work on the car includes replacement of the headliner, powder-coating the original steel wheels; as well as hydraulic fluid change, replacement of the brake accumulator, clutch adjustment, new tire tubes, and oil change. The recent mechanical work was done by Hein Gysin, who has maintained the car (as a mobile mechanic) for the past decade or so. Several new photographs of some of the repair invoices from the 1990s will be uploaded today to the vehicle's photo gallery, to provide detailed evidence of a portion of the car's maintenance and repair history. Note the expense itemized in one of these invoices for \"Field Service to Strathmore\".", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569694918, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3689310, "authorName": "chardon", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/chardon/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Hello , you can look the same car on : autoscout24.ch ,the mystery knob is a lighter , you can also see the price ! ...about 37000 USD, this DS is in the same \"\u00e9tat\" (very Clean ) that yours ,its also a REAL Pallas , sit in this , and you can understand what means PALLAS , Good luck ! Chardon", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569695257, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3689455, "authorName": "danieltiffany (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/danieltiffany/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "#chardon\r\n\r\nSame car? I assume you mean same model and year? I have no knowledge of the car in the ad you mention, but the history and provenance of my DS is utterly distinctive, documented, and not to be confused with any other car. In addition, you seem to suggest that my DS is not a \u201creal\u201d Pallas: your suggestion is completely false, as the original dealer invoice (see photograph) identifies the car explicitly as a Pallas model. Check the facts before making false assertions.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569700208, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3689489, "authorName": "cordoc", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cordoc/", "bidAmount": 10250, "content": "$10,250 bid placed by cordoc", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569701802, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 3689638, "authorName": "DDAY57", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/dday57/", "bidAmount": 15000, "content": "$15,000 bid placed by DDAY57", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569708673, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 3689657, "authorName": "Dogdoc1", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/dogdoc1/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Seller I think you are misinterpreting what @chardon is trying to say-remember English is not his/her first language. I interpret the comments to say that there is a similar car for sale also in excellent condition and ALSO being a real Pallas being sold for a princely sum. He is complimenting, not detracting from your car and suggesting that it is worth far more than the current bid. C\u2019est vraie @Chardon?", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1569709571, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3689667, "authorName": "danieltiffany (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/danieltiffany/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "#Dogdoc1\r\n\r\nThanks for your comment. Perhaps you are right, but it wasn\u2019t clear from #chardon\u2019s comment what he/she wished to say, and I just needed to be sure that there was no uncertainty in anyone\u2019s mind that the DS in this auction is a real Pallas.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569710295, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3689679, "authorName": "bringatrailer", "authorUrl": "", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Photos of service receipts have been added to the end of the gallery.\n\n-BaT", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569710812, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3689786, "authorName": "ttv566", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/ttv566/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "good to see some bids picking up on this beauty, there just can not be many original low miles DS left on the planet, somebody is going to be very lucky..just came in from a ride in my twin to this one..love it!!", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1569716324, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3689925, "authorName": "MARTY_ROTH", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/marty_roth/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@danieltiffany \r\n\r\nOur last two 1971 & 1972 Pallas and Safari models had the \u201cNEWER\u201d A/C style with air intake through the bumper ends and a pair of condensers dumping heated air into the wheel wells instead of the radiator. Not a criticism, but I noticed that this beautiful Pallas is not an A/C car, and since we\u2019re in New Orleans, it is a necessity, at least for us. \r\n\r\nDo you know the availability of the later A/C and bumper components which would enhance this Pallas for use and touring in the Deep South?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569723381, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3689929, "authorName": "danieltiffany (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/danieltiffany/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "#MARTY_ROTH\r\n\r\nNo, I\u2019m afraid I don\u2019t have any information about adding A/C to this model. Sorry!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569723816, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3690092, "authorName": "waynestoys", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/waynestoys/", "bidAmount": 16000, "content": "$16,000 bid placed by waynestoys", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569738837, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 3690112, "authorName": "FSJ_Europe", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/fsj_europe/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "\"Le nuancier DS\", in my opinion the best reference site for citroen DS, has a page with a list of everything that identifies a Pallas. This example ticks the boxes.\r\nhttp://www.nuancierds.fr/DT%20Pallas.htm", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1569742236, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3690117, "authorName": "chardon", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/chardon/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "thanks for all informations ! i don't say : it is not a PALLAS ! i say its a REAL PALLAS . in Europe whe have many DS modified in Pallas , look at infos from FJS_Europe , and you can understand all the differences . and many cars , that you can found on the market ,are repaired ! this one is like a new one !.... Good luck .Chardon", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1569745138, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3690118, "authorName": "chardon", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/chardon/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "look at this for climatisation :https://www.citrowagon.fr/753_clim_ds_usa.html", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1569746150, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3690398, "authorName": "danieltiffany (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/danieltiffany/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "#chardon\r\n\r\nThank you, Chardon--much appreciated!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569771405, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3690428, "authorName": "benzjags", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/benzjags/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Seller...Per an earlier question, can you tell us why you are selling the car after having just purchased it? If no confirmation, I am assuming you are \"flipping\" it? I apologize if missed your answer?", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1569772896, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3690440, "authorName": "1964Imperial", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/1964imperial/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Does this model's headlights turn in the direction of steering? I remember seeing these Citroen autos around the north side of Chicago when I was growing up in the late 60's and the 70's. I was always fascinated by them and love them today! Too many car too little money. LOL Good luck to bidders and the seller!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569773207, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3690446, "authorName": "danieltiffany (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/danieltiffany/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "#benzags \r\n\r\nI'm selling the car because I have don't have an indoor space to keep the car--and I live very close to the beach, which would eventually create a rust problem. As much as I would love to keep the car, I simply can't allow it to deteriorate. It's an exceptional car with an intriguing history, and it deserves to be maintained and preserved in its present remarkable state.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1569773375, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3690448, "authorName": "1964Imperial", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/1964imperial/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Does this model feature the headlights that turn in the direction of steering? I remember seeing these cars on Chicago's north side when I was growing up in the 60's and 70's. I was attracted to the styling but knew nothing about them until I came to BAT and was exposed to the deep knowledge of the nice people who comment here...Too many cars to little money-LOL Good luck to bidders and the seller!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569773484, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3690449, "authorName": "danieltiffany (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/danieltiffany/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "#1964Imperial\r\n\r\nThe headlights on U.S. spec cars--such as this one--do not turn; that feature is found only on European models.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1569773518, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3690493, "authorName": "fast_fred", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/fast_fred/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Was allowed to work on some of these cars, and was very impressed by them. Someone is going to get a terrific automobile.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569776398, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3690523, "authorName": "ttv566", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/ttv566/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "A quick comment about the \"flipping\". i am not sure why it should matter to anyone why this seller is selling so fast, or that there is anything wrong with making a little profit here and there, he is making a stunning car available to serious buyers and that is all that matters. I myself am a confirmed car nut who has bought and sold many cars over the years, some of them just because i wanted the experience of trying out cars that i have always dreamed about and lusted after, i usually have buyers remorse, or get attracted to another opportunity, or realize i have no where to park it within days of owning it. i sometimes can turn a small profit, but usually break even if i am lucky. we shouldn't worry about the car in this auction, i have no connection to this car or buyer, but sometimes get the same things asked of me..", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1569778093, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3690686, "authorName": "trailerman", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/trailerman/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I have a DS 20, 1970 in Capetown, SA. We named her Brigette.\r\n\r\nThe DS20's also did not have turning headlites but I do have the original covers. It has a 5 speed transmission from a Palais which in 5th is an overdrive. Totally enjoy the car and we take her the 200 miles yearly to the great George auto show. Au Revior", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1569786422, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3691383, "authorName": "Undertaker", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/undertaker/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I have never riden in a more comfortable car, ever.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569848832, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3691507, "authorName": "Frenchbuff", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/frenchbuff/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "#danieltiffany, you're absolutely right about keeping these cars, or ANY car, away from a beach or area where ocean breezes waft saltwater moisture over the coastal mountains. A few yrs ago I salvaged a '68 DS21 Pallas from an owner who lived in Pacifica - over the mntns from San Francisco. The car was GARAGED about 300 yards from the beach. And the car was NEARLY TOTALLY DISSOLVED!! \r\nI've been driving DSs for 57 yrs, and NEVER before seen corrosion this bad. The aluminum roof was totally detached from the roof frame at its edges. WORSE, the TOPS of the doors were GONE. Yet the engine still ran, and I was able to move the car under its own power until when shifting into reverse via the Citromatic semi-auto transmission, the reverse pressure pipe to the transmission blew out from RUST - totally eaten thru. \r\n\r\n So kudos to you #danieltiffany for letting the car go to a more benign environment hopefully. \r\nFurther, I also have a '72 D wagon that resided in the hills above Bodega Bay, north of SF. That car also has some rust I have to deal with - the steel roof on that car will be replaced as it is holed around its perimeter. Fortunately the chassis and doors are solid. But ocean mist has had its effect. Having grown up in the very dry environment of Salt Lake City Ut, where my late father started our family history with Citroens - in the middle of what seemed like nowhere in the '60s re foreign car service - I had to learn about corrosion by going to the Midwest for my career (Detroit) - where Detroit Iron or any iron disappears into the ground after awhile. \r\nAnyone who has the fortitude to let this most innovative car ever, most comfortable, most capable car go after owning it for only a short time has my admiration and gratitude - we're not going to get any more of these - they have to be preserved and used. \r\n\r\nPS: I base these comments on a background in physics and product design. These engineers used natural law principles laid down by Newton better than anything else I've ever studied in their design of the DS and the totality of the product - nothing else comes close.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1569853259, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3691530, "authorName": "Frenchbuff", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/frenchbuff/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Just noticed a feature on this car on the rear suspension spheres: The yellow cap on their ends - photo 110 - is evidently a cap over a Schrader-type refilling valve - a high pressure version of a regular tire valve. With this item and a nitrogen cylinder, it's very easy to repressurize these gas springs on or off the car - easier than changing a shock absorber on an ordinary car. I've often thought of doing same on my own Citroens, but for the custom system I've been using for 45 yrs which involves a lot more work.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1569853673, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3691611, "authorName": "Architectdave", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/architectdave/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "These cars make me think of the 1950's future city renderings and what cars would look like but nobody told the car maker not to actually do it....", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569855369, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3691625, "authorName": "Frenchbuff", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/frenchbuff/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Around 1984 I was consulting with Delco Products along with a GM exec, who told me that he and another exec bought a '57 DS19 to study and cost analyze that year. Their teardown team told them that GM's cost to duplicate this car would cost in '57 money internally $10,000 - before profit. How Citroen did it without being shut down by mgmnt is impossible to understand. Only reason I could ever come up with was that, being owned then by Michelin, they saw the car as a loss leader for selling their tires, which were an oddball metric size, so the car had to use Michelins.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1569855797, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3692006, "authorName": "TheFatMick", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/thefatmick/", "bidAmount": 17500, "content": "$17,500 bid placed by TheFatMick", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569864299, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 3692047, "authorName": "jjac", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jjac/", "bidAmount": 18000, "content": "$18,000 bid placed by jjac", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569865472, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 3692053, "authorName": "lumdor", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/lumdor/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Photo of right & left rear doors at fenders (photos, but no numbers on them) seems to have a wider gap than the two front fender @ door gaps. Were the rear fenders not tight at the rear or was there rear end damage?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569865668, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3692063, "authorName": "kapohoboy", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/kapohoboy/", "bidAmount": 19000, "content": "$19,000 bid placed by kapohoboy", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569865735, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 3692066, "authorName": "ttv566", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/ttv566/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@lumdor citroens never really have perfectly even body gaps, every panel is removable for service work, front and rear fenders pop off in minutes to attend to work on the car, the rears have to come off to change a tire for example, only held on by one bolt, using the wheel wrench to undo it, quite genius!!!", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1569865768, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3692106, "authorName": "DDAY57", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/dday57/", "bidAmount": 20000, "content": "$20,000 bid placed by DDAY57", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569866414, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 3692119, "authorName": "danieltiffany (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/danieltiffany/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@lumdor\r\n\r\nThe original owner told me that the car has never been in an accident. As @ttv566 indicates, both rear fenders come off entirely for tire changes, and must be re-positioned accordingly\u2014which accounts for the slight gaps you are seeing.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569866499, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3692190, "authorName": "jjac", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jjac/", "bidAmount": 21000, "content": "$21,000 bid placed by jjac", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569867012, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 3692248, "authorName": "Oliver5974", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/oliver5974/", "bidAmount": 21500, "content": "$21,500 bid placed by Oliver5974", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569867329, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 3692262, "authorName": "jjac", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jjac/", "bidAmount": 21750, "content": "$21,750 bid placed by jjac", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569867417, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 3692286, "authorName": "kapohoboy", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/kapohoboy/", "bidAmount": 25000, "content": "$25,000 bid placed by kapohoboy", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569867538, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 3692306, "authorName": "Anonymous", "authorUrl": "", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Reserve not met on 9/30/19 at $25,000", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569867660, "type": "bat-bid-reserve"}, {"id": 3692340, "authorName": "230West78th", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/230west78th/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I agree that $25,000 is too low. But can we know what your reserve was?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569867870, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3692418, "authorName": "kapohoboy", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/kapohoboy/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "my guess was that he might paid less than $20 and since he was wanting a good home for the car and I live in San Luis Obispo, that $25 would be enough for the car to go home........", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1569868544, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3692879, "authorName": "Frenchbuff", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/frenchbuff/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "The body panel gaps on a DS are deliberately larger than on other cars, and in the '80s I learned why when I asked the question of a Citroen engineer in Paris when I visited them as a supplier engineer: The original car was designed for PLASTIC bodypanels!! Possibly only the rear and front fenders, but then I didn't ask that question. SO - to handle thermal expansion of an unreinforced plastic in a wide range of temp. climates, the fenders were mounted on SLIDE mounts - hence the rubber- lined holes on front edge of rear fenders, and rear edges of front fenders. Those attachments allowed for thermal movement - expansion/contraction of the panels lengthwise, so as to avoid bending/distortion which would have occurred had they all been rigidly attached at both ends. and required larger doorgaps as a precaution to prevent close-up of that separation. \r\n\r\nThe amazingly ironic occurrence was - I was part of a Chrysler team ( but not working directly FOR them) that put the first plastic fenders on their new model sedans introduced in 1990: The Chrysler LH series cars, led by Bob Lutz, who was CEO at that time. And I personally developed the SLIDE fasteners that allowed those panels to move fore or aft from the front edge, so as not to change the doorgap at the front door hinge line. \r\n\r\nSO - Citroen engineers were at least 30 yrs ahead of all attempts in the US to use plastic bodypanels on a major car line. OF course the Mehari, with its totally vacuum-formed plastic body even earlier in production didn't even bother with allowing for thermal movement - those panels were all riveted to the tubular body support frame with aluminum rivets, which was a mistake - electrolytic corrosion of the aluminum in steel tubing dissolved those fasteners in moist climates.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1569871758, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3692882, "authorName": "FSJ_Europe", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/fsj_europe/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Nice pallas sell in Europe for around 30k euros, so around 35k US Dollars, this is a 10k gap with the highest bid for this one. It seems that French cars are still not very popular in America ?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569871780, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3693058, "authorName": "Nanko", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/nanko/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Agree with FSJ_Europe I have been looking at Restored DS 21 for years. They run in the 50-60k range. Unfortunately they are not very popular in the US and finding a qualified mechanic in most cities is very difficult. Making less desirable to own one of these beauties!Sorry I missed the end of the auction. Will definitely bid if there is a new auction on this car", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569873331, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3693152, "authorName": "unclewill", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/unclewill/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "No demand = low prices\r\nThis is bad news for sellers (unless they are really patient) but good news for enthusiasts like myself who would love to own a DS one day...\r\nSuch a fascinating car!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569873864, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3693639, "authorName": "FSJ_Europe", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/fsj_europe/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Actually my comment doesn't apply to all French cars, there is at least one exception : Renault 5 Turbos . I noticed that they sell pretty well on BAT", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569877942, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3694183, "authorName": "lumdor", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/lumdor/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "As I noted in my previous comment, the rear fenders were probably not aligned. FYI ttv556... only rear fenders are detachable for tire changing.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569888488, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3694316, "authorName": "Frenchbuff", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/frenchbuff/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "As you mention @lumdor, remove only one bolt and the rear fenders come off. Better yet, each front fender can be removed for servicing much of the front end by removing only 2 large bolts and two small ones. Then the fender can be removed as a unit after unplugging the wiring terminals. Doing this allows access to the innards without having to lean over a fender and possibly damage the paint. No other car ever designed incorporated this feature. PLUS - the engineers put all sorts of ingenious ideas into the car. Versus most other cars, this hood opens perfectly vertically, and can be held there by putting a steel rod U-shaped form into two of the hood hinge holes to lock the hood straight up and totally out of the way. \r\nThis feature is also a hidden safety feature: If for some reason the triple hood latch setup is not working or not on the car, and the wind picks up the hood if one stupidly drives the car that way - as I did while in college - and the hood wraps over the roof, one can see due to the curvature of the hood at the winshield! AND - being one piece aluminum, no damage is done to the windshield or even the roof frame. How's that for smart design?", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1569892102, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3694729, "authorName": "lumdor", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/lumdor/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Thank you to a most knowledgeable \u2018Citroenite\u2019 to increase my Citroen facts!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1569910953, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 5913213, "authorName": "Sumdumguy", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/sumdumguy/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I'm happy to see the price on these coming down. I've been wanting a DS Safari or SM, for a long time. \r\n\r\nLooks like they might be getting closer to my budget.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1616028454, "type": "comment"}]