[{"id": 9843259, "authorName": "afield0", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/afield0/", "bidAmount": 1000, "content": "$1,000 bid placed by afield0", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666390659, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 9843430, "authorName": "Sjulier", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/sjulier/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Does the AC work properly? How often have the fluids been changed? Thanks.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1666391551, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9843520, "authorName": "GTFan12", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/gtfan12/", "bidAmount": 1111, "content": "$1,111 bid placed by GTFan12", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666392041, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 9843644, "authorName": "Velohog", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/velohog/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "How bad is the dashboard?", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1666392574, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9843648, "authorName": "McDoobin", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/mcdoobin/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Nice!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666392581, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9843864, "authorName": "Old_Ned", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/old_ned/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "For all the 240 owners watching, take a close look at picture 167, a bag of fuses. These are the only type of fuses that should be used in your cars. Notice the brass and copper colored fuse metal, the silver/gray colored ones that are available will cause major problems because of the brass contacts in the fuse box. I\u2019ve seen cars towed because of the problem.", "likes": 8, "timestamp": 1666393624, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9843922, "authorName": "Old_Ned", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/old_ned/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "The armrest pulling out of the door is usually an easy fix. There is a metal clip that locks into the inner door skin that holds the part that is sticking out. The clip is specific to each side of the car so that it lines up correctly", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1666393893, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9843945, "authorName": "BCMac", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/bcmac/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Nicely preserved classic wagon. This one looks to be quite correct, save for the IPD improvements. The auxiliary OE VDO/Volvo gauges are a nice touch, and the 52mm mini tach is exceedingly rare - as is the M47 5speed manual. The 15\" Virgos and Michelin rubber are as good as it gets for handling v. ride. v. tire section. The 14\" multi X wheels that his car wore when new aren't worth owning at thing point. \r\n\r\nThere was no such thing as an \"LE\" in Volvo's nomenclature for the 240. The last 1600 240 sedans and wagons to be imported to North America were simple known as the 240 Classic. \r\n\r\nThe IPD strut tower reinforcement plates are meant to be installed between the strut turn table and the body.. not on top of the strut tower, as they are now. IPD's instructions were incorrect for these plates. As installed, they do nothing to strengthen the already stout strut towner structure. These plates - and the reinforcement bars to the cowl, were standard on the 1978-80 242GT. \r\n\r\nThe IPD 25mm front and 23mm rear sway bars are fine for a smooth road, but frankly handling is better with a 23mm front/rear bar setup. Yes the front leans a little more but the improvement in ride and tracking is worth the trade off. \r\n\r\nNice car, tempted to bid on this one myself!", "likes": 10, "timestamp": 1666394009, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9844151, "authorName": "drfiredog", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/drfiredog/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Seller...more on the rust please.\r\nr", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666395391, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9844156, "authorName": "drfiredog", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/drfiredog/", "bidAmount": 1500, "content": "$1,500 bid placed by drfiredog", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666395412, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 9844167, "authorName": "jesmuse", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jesmuse/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Too bad about that speaker in an inconvenient location....", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1666395517, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9844242, "authorName": "AdventureGumby", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/adventuregumby/", "bidAmount": 2400, "content": "$2,400 bid placed by AdventureGumby", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666396379, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 9844333, "authorName": "GreenCarsandTrucks", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/greencarsandtrucks/", "bidAmount": 2700, "content": "$2,700 bid placed by GreenCarsandTrucks", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666397324, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 9844564, "authorName": "lucent", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/lucent/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "What are the black 1 inch or so plus wide strips below the window trim called? I have a similar brick wagon but mine are cracked and faded and they need to be replaced.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666399674, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9844706, "authorName": "GTFan12", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/gtfan12/", "bidAmount": 2813, "content": "$2,813 bid placed by GTFan12", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666401136, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 9844811, "authorName": "fabzfabz", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/fabzfabz/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Beautiful Brick.\r\nBest of luck.\r\n\ud83c\uddf8\ud83c\uddea", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666402265, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9844918, "authorName": "MajorMinor", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/majorminor/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "The third video should be called \"The Tattooed Arm Shifting Gears\".", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1666403645, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9844930, "authorName": "wanderlust561", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/wanderlust561/", "bidAmount": 3001, "content": "$3,001 bid placed by wanderlust561", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666403769, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 9844965, "authorName": "PDXBryan", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/pdxbryan/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Now we\u2019re talkin\u2019!", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1666404236, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9845327, "authorName": "David_P", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/david_p/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "A sunroof! Now that\u2019s a rare thing on a 240 wagon.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666410143, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9845709, "authorName": "JDB1", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jdb1/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Please describe extent and location of rust - reference to picture numbers also helpful.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1666435035, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9845713, "authorName": "JDB1", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jdb1/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Please also describe location of oil leak. Thanks", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666435239, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9845800, "authorName": "VolvoDoug", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvodoug/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "The sunroof is aftermarket, is it not?\r\n\r\n@JDB1 the oil \u201cdrip\u201d appears to be from the drain plug. Perhaps a new copper seal was not used on the last oil change.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666439067, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9845879, "authorName": "drfiredog", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/drfiredog/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "So how did the \"frame rail\" beneath the passenger side get so deformed and roached? Does the other side show same?", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1666440843, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9845887, "authorName": "GTFan12", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/gtfan12/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@lucent Those are the door stripes. I believe Dave Barton sells a new replacement set made of vinyl on his website.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666441040, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9845973, "authorName": "RRoan", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rroan/", "bidAmount": 3150, "content": "$3,150 bid placed by RRoan", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666442607, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 9846269, "authorName": "VolvoDriver (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvodriver/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Greetings, fellow 240 nuts! \r\n\r\nI was surprised to see that BaT listed me with no prior heads-up while I was out last night with my wife, as I\u2019d been waiting four days since having approved their description, written as they preferred. \r\n\r\nI just wanted to briefly introduce myself and send over my version of this listing, which I think gives more clarity and detail up front. Hopefully it will answer this first batch of questions, but I\u2019ll of course I look forward to answering more! Thank you for all these helpful comments and questions already added. Please forgive my longwindedness, but I love this car, and these are the answers to the questions I would have if I were looking to buy\u2026\r\n\r\nI\u2019m neither a dealer nor a mechanic, just a middle-aged guy who dearly loves these cars and is selling one on BaT for the first time. I grew up in 240s before I could even drive. Both my parents drove them, and they were divorced! What truly sealed the deal for me was a 15K-mile cross-country road trip in my Dad\u2019s \u201982 DL sedan when I was 15 (Yellowstone, Yosemite, Canada, Mexico, Grand Canyon, etc.). I learned to drive on that car and have owned three myself since. This one is my last and my favorite by far. \r\n\r\nAfter my previous 240 wagon, an \u201987 5-speed, I drove a practical Camry for a decade while steadfastly remaining vigilantly on the lookout for the perfect 240 wagon, which for me was this one. I mean c\u2019mon, it\u2019s the last year they were made, last batch, classic edition, gorgeous paint\u2026and it\u2019s FIVE SPEED MANUAL\u2026and it has a POWER SUNROOF. Was this the holy grail of 240 wagons, after searching for a decade?! I was in 240 nirvana, and I\u2019ve only improved the car since then, as though I\u2019d keep it forever\u2026\r\n\r\nI\u2019ve put a ton of TLC into it ever since, and I hate to see it go, but it\u2019s time. Like many lucky folks, I stopped commuting to the next town over in March 2020, and instead of 350 miles a week, now I drive it around town 2-3 times a week. We\u2019re going to be a one-car household now, and I\u2019ve come to terms with letting my beloved 245 go and letting my wife drive us around in her new \u201ccrossover SUV\u201d or whatever, but to be frank, it\u2019s taken me more than 2.5 years to get there emotionally\u2014to the place of finally being okay with letting this one go, LOL. But no joke. Haha. I mean it.\r\n\r\nThis 1993 Volvo 240 wagon is #1,398 of only 1,600 numbered, Classic models ever produced\u2014800 of which were wagons\u2014in this, the final series manufactured in the final year of Volvo 240 production. The numbered badge is featured in the dash center, above the genuine wood inlay, and the front exterior features paint-matched grill, side-mirror and headlight \u201ceyebrow\u201d sections, all of which are hallmarks of the \u201cclassic\u201d edition of the final 240s ever built.\r\n\r\nThis 240 wagon (aka 245, aka brick) is finished in its original Volvo factory color #412 Green-Blue Metallic over a tan vinyl interior and is powered by a B230 2.3-liter inline-four mated to a five-speed manual transmission, which sends power to the rear wheels. \r\n\r\nSilver-finished 15\u2033 Virgo turbo-edition alloy wheels are wrapped in four 195/65 Michelin Defender tires. These tires were purchased new in December 2021 and having been driven approximately 2,000 miles since\u2014and a fifth Virgo spare wheel (also wrapped in a Michelin tire\u2014this one with zero miles on it) is stored in the trunk spare compartment in lieu of the factory spare donut. Stopping power is provided by four-wheel disc brakes with ABS.\r\n\r\nRetrofitted auxiliary gauges in the center stack include four fully functional, backlit OEM Volvo gauges typically found only in previous turbo models, including tachometer, oil temperature, oil pressure and voltage. A four-spoke steering wheel fronts a 120-mph speedometer, an analog clock, and a combination gauge for coolant temperature and fuel level. Cruise control is included and fully functional.\r\n\r\nThe front seats and rear bench are upholstered in tan vinyl and are complemented by color-coordinated door panels, carpets, a black dashboard and a plush fitted dash cover. Four original, OEM tan rubber floor mats line the footwells. The wood trim on the dash was re-stained and sealed several years ago by a woodworking friend. A tear is shown on the right-front passenger seat bottom. The driver\u2019s-seat vinyl was replaced in 2013 and appears slightly different from stock vinyl, as is discernable in the photos.\r\n\r\nI bought this car in November 2012 from its previous NJ-based owner and paid professionals to add many new parts from IPD including front and rear sway bars, an aluminum skid plate, upper strut reinforcement plates and mounts, strut bar stabilizer braces, front and rear springs, gas tailgate struts, head and tail-light assemblies, a VX street performance camshaft for non-turbo Volvo 240s (adding an approximate 22 horsepower increase) and a valve cam cover gasket. \r\n\r\nThis car also features a front spoiler beneath the bumper and mudguards. A rare, fully functional power sunroof was replaced in 2013 and features tinted glass, illuminated control buttons and a sliding interior shade underneath the glass. This wagon also features heated front seats, R134 air conditioning (serviced and recharged with new coolant in July 2021), power windows and door locks, powered/heated external side mirrors, heated front seats and an aftermarket auto-dimming rearview mirror with digital compass and external temperature readout. ...to be continued...", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1666446384, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9846272, "authorName": "VolvoDriver (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvodriver/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Windows all around are 35% tinted with heat-blocking, lifetime-guaranteed ceramic film. The rear-window defroster and wiper are functional. About the sunroof\u2014the guy I bought the car from in 2012 said he bought it from his neighbors, a Volvo family who he said ordered this car directly from the factory with the original sunroof and manual transmission specified in their order, though I wasn\u2019t aware Volvo was installing power sunroofs at that time, so it seems like it could have been aftermarket? Anyway, I had it replaced soon after the purchase, when I had the driver\u2019s side seat vinyl replaced, and it\u2019s worked perfectly ever since.\r\n\r\nThe audio setup in this vehicle includes a single-din 2016 Bluetooth-capable Sony CD stereo deck with removable face, with USB port, owner\u2019s manual and remote, linked to and powered by an Alpine Power Pack amplifier anchored under the passenger seat. Stock front speakers and JVC rear speakers are included with a 15\u201d, 500W subwoofer in a custom box under a sturdy metal grille anchored securely underneath the cargo hold. The sub is powered by a dedicated Mosfet 2-channel DTX 600W power amplifier mounted under the rear bench seat and controlled by the Sony deck. A subwoofer-specific volume knob is installed in what was originally the dash cigarette lighter. Dynamat sound-proofing pads have been installed inside all four doors and in the cargo hold compartment housing the subwoofer.\r\n\r\nAn oil change was last performed at approximately 190K miles (or about 3,000 miles ago). I was always in the habit of getting oil changes and tire rotations simultaneously, approximately every 5,000 miles for the decade I\u2019ve owned this car. When I bought it I had it switched over to 5W30 synthetic blend oil. In July 2022, I had the exhaust system, including a new muffler, pipes, catalytic converter and oxygen sensor, replaced. Earlier this month, in October 2022, I had the rack & pinion assembly, right-front ABS wheel-speed sensor, ignition switch, right-front outer tie rod and strut caps replaced. Also during this most recent service, I had the power steering fluid flushed and replaced, replaced two PCU hoses, had the front wheels realigned and had the third brake light in the cargo door fixed, which had a bad integrity relay. \r\n\r\nAccording to the Volvo-specializing mechanic who did this most recent work (10/22), there is a slow, minor oil drip, which he measured and described as \u201c3-4 drops, overnight,\u201d coming from the drain plug area (pictured), but an oil change wasn\u2019t (and isn\u2019t) due yet, so he didn\u2019t drain the oil, and he suspects this is probably a simple case of needing a new copper washer around the plug, as these can wear out. However, there is a special drain plug in use here, adapted with an oil temperature sensor for the turbo dash gauge that measures this for the gauge. If it\u2019s not the copper washer that is worn out, it could be an issue with this specialized plug/sensor combo. Either way, I\u2019m including the original oil drain plug as well, which does not feature the sensor.\r\n\r\nThe six-digit odometer now shows nearly 193K miles, approximately 85K of which I have added. Though the odometer was locked at 108K miles at the time of purchase in 2012, I suspect (based on discussions with the previous owner and previous records he provided) that the odometer only failed to reflect approximately 5K-10K miles (at most) before I had it repaired a few months after purchasing the car (in January 2013). Sounds like the car was garaged, unused for a few years before the original family decided to let it go. The odometer stopped again in April 2019, and I promptly had it fixed with replacement gears from Dave Barton and/or IPD. Stock plastic Volvo 240 odometer gears are notorious for this. So it\u2019s correct to say that \u201ctrue mileage is unknown\u201d as BaT put it, but for these reasons I don\u2019t think it\u2019s really much higher than what it shows.\r\n\r\nYes, some rust is noted on the undercarriage and lower door panels, and additional photos are provided in the gallery below. All this rust was present upon purchase in 2012 as the car was in New Jersey, but I immediately the undercarriage treated (also in January 2013) with rust inhibitor (a rust-preventive undercoating designed to stop rust from propagating after it is detected). Rust has never been a problem and has never been mentioned to me as a problem by any of the mechanics I\u2019ve hired to work on it. The car has been based in Tennessee since the 2012 purchase, and that, perhaps along with the thorough rust-inhibitor treatment, seems to have contributed to the rust pretty much stopping in its tracks. At any rate, it\u2019s not been an issue for me.\r\n\r\nThere are a few dings from grocery carts here and there, and the original paint is intact but imperfect. Based on the few previous records I do have, including a letter from the first owner with photos, and conversations with the second owner, a neighbor of the original owner who had it briefly after buying it for his teenage son\u2026WHO REJECTED IT\u2026and who then sold it to me, it sounds like the car was always garaged before I bought it in 2012.\r\n\r\nSince then, it has mostly been parked in my open-air driveway and exposed to the elements, as I\u2019ve never been fortunate enough to have a garage, with the exception of a four-year period when I commuted ~65 miles per day (2016-2020) and parked it during daytime working hours in a covered parking garage. Blemishes in the clearcoat on the right-front fender, hood and roof are noted and additional exterior imperfections are shown in the photo gallery below.\r\n\r\nThe Carfax report shows no accidents or damage and lists registration history in New Jersey and Tennessee. This vehicle is offered at no reserve with its original jack and tools, two original keys, COMPREHENSIVE service records covering all 10 years of ownership, original owner\u2019s manuals, a bag of spare parts including a Volvo paint touch-up kit, a clean Carfax report and a clean Tennessee title in the seller\u2019s name.\r\n\r\nThanks for your interest and for reading this!\r\n\r\nChris (the seller)", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1666446441, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9846273, "authorName": "VolvoDriver (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvodriver/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Regarding current questions, in the order they\u2019ve appeared:\r\n\r\nSjulier: Yes, the AC does work properly. It was last serviced and recharged with R134 coolant approximately 3K miles ago in July 2021. Fluids were changed on the regular for all 10 years I\u2019ve owned it. I had the oil changed and tires rotated every 5K miles, and fluids were always checked and added when this happened.\r\n\r\nVelohog: I\u2019d say the dashboard is excellent and wouldn\u2019t use the word \u201cbad\u201d at all. As you can see from the pics, it\u2019s in fantastic shape. I\u2019ve included pics of it with the velour dash cover removed, so you can see what it looks like underneath.\r\n\r\ndrfiredog: Hopefully the paragraph above about the rust has answered your question, but I don\u2019t know much else to say about it. I was concerned about it when I bought it 10 years ago, but after the rust treatment I had and it living in a warmer climate for a decade in TN, it\u2019s never been an issue. I included as many pics as I could get from my last two service visits, asking the mechanic take as many as he could underneath for me.\r\n\r\nJesmuse: Regarding the \u201cinconvenient\u201d speaker in the cargo hold\u2014it has never been a problem or gotten in the way of hauling anything. Believe me when I tell you this thing is STOUT. It\u2019s a heavy-duty metal grille covering that speaker, and it\u2019s VERY well anchored. You could drop a couch on it and it wouldn\u2019t dent, and it isn\u2019t far from flush, rising perhaps an inch or less over the cargo hold floor, so stuff slides over it easily, and it has a black powdercoat, so nothing snags.\r\n\r\nLucent: I think maybe you call those \u201cwindow scrapers.\u201d Yes, I think Dave Barton has them, and IPD might too.\r\n\r\nMajorMinor: Yes, my tattooed arm will sorely miss shifting those gears! Why anyone would ever drive an automatic I just don\u2019t understand!\r\n\r\nJDB1: As far as the rust, I\u2019ve tried my best to describe all I really know about it, both above in my description and in my response to drfiredog. The photos are my attempt to show all of that that I can. Let me know if I can clarify anything else, but that\u2019s about all I really know about it. Again, it has never been mentioned by any of the mechanics who have serviced it in my 10 years of ownership as having impeded their ability to fix or replace anything.\r\n\r\nJDB1: Hopefully I addressed this well in my description above, but my mechanic, who only works on Volvos, strongly suspect this slight drip is being caused by a bad copper washer over the drain plug, though there\u2019s a chance it could relate to the fancy drain plug that incorporates a sensor for the oil temperature gauge. At any rate, I\u2019m not even seeing drips on my driveway, and I\u2019m including the original drain plug.\r\n\r\nVolvoDoug: Yes, I describe the sunroof above in my description, but yes it is an aftermarket power sunroof I purchased and installed from a place in Nashville that specializes in sunroofs and upholstery. It\u2019s a very nice system that is smooth and reliable. Thank you for the copper seal point about the oil drip. That confirms my mechanic\u2019s suspicion that it merely needs a new copper washer, which some quickie oil change places don\u2019t carry, but I avoid those places anyway!\r\n\r\ndrfiredog: I\u2019m not a mechanic, and I really don\u2019t know what you mean by a deformed/roached frame rail. I\u2019m definitely not trying to be difficult here, but if something happened to it, I am not aware of it. If you can point me to what you\u2019re wondering about, maybe I can help, but I\u2019m not sure.\r\n\r\nWell, thanks again to everyone else making informed and helpful comments and well wishes here. I figured this is long enough and just wanted to answer the actual questions, so I didn\u2019t address all the comments, but both are quite welcome of course!\r\n\r\nI\u2019ll do my best to keep up with questions as they arise, going forward.\r\n\r\nThanks again all for your interest. \r\n\r\nThe old girl\u2019s just got to have a good home with another serious 240 enthusiast!\r\n\r\n\u2026hopefully one with a garage, this time, lol.\r\n\r\nChris", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1666446460, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9846287, "authorName": "HeavyTank77", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/heavytank77/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Intact door pockets? This is a unicorn!", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1666446629, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9846313, "authorName": "VolvoDriver (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvodriver/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Sjulier: Yes, the AC does work properly. It was last serviced and recharged with R134 coolant approximately 3K miles ago in July 2021. Fluids were changed on the regular for all 10 years I\u2019ve owned it. I had the oil changed and tires rotated every 5K miles, and fluids were always checked and added when this happened.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1666446912, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9846315, "authorName": "VolvoDriver (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvodriver/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Velohog: I\u2019d say the dashboard is excellent and wouldn\u2019t use the word \u201cbad\u201d at all. As you can see from the pics, it\u2019s in fantastic shape. I\u2019ve included pics of it with the velour dash cover removed, so you can see what it looks like underneath.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1666446927, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9846321, "authorName": "VolvoDriver (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvodriver/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@drfiredog: Hopefully the paragraph above about the rust has answered your question, but I don\u2019t know much else to say about it. I was concerned about it when I bought it 10 years ago, but after the rust treatment I had and it living in a warmer climate for a decade in TN, it\u2019s never been an issue. I included as many pics as I could get from my last two service visits, asking the mechanic take as many as he could underneath for me.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1666446991, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9846325, "authorName": "VolvoDriver (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvodriver/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Jesmuse: Regarding the \u201cinconvenient\u201d speaker in the cargo hold\u2014it has never been a problem or gotten in the way of hauling anything. Believe me when I tell you this thing is STOUT. It\u2019s a heavy-duty metal grille covering that speaker, and it\u2019s VERY well anchored. You could drop a couch on it and it wouldn\u2019t dent, and it isn\u2019t far from flush, rising perhaps an inch or less over the cargo hold floor, so stuff slides over it easily, and it has a black powdercoat, so nothing snags.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1666447033, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9846330, "authorName": "VolvoDriver (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvodriver/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Lucent: I think maybe you call those \u201cwindow scrapers.\u201d Yes, I think Dave Barton has them, and IPD might too.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666447066, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9846332, "authorName": "VolvoDriver (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvodriver/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@MajorMinor: Yes, my tattooed arm will sorely miss shifting those gears! Why anyone would ever drive an automatic I just don\u2019t understand!", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1666447104, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9846335, "authorName": "VolvoDriver (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvodriver/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@JDB1: As far as the rust, I\u2019ve tried my best to describe all I really know about it, both above in my description and in my response to drfiredog. The photos are my attempt to show all of that that I can. Let me know if I can clarify anything else, but that\u2019s about all I really know about it. Again, it has never been mentioned by any of the mechanics who have serviced it in my 10 years of ownership as having impeded their ability to fix or replace anything.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1666447135, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9846337, "authorName": "VolvoDriver (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvodriver/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@JDB1: Hopefully I addressed this well in my updated description posted in the comments, but my mechanic, who only works on Volvos, strongly suspect this slight drip is being caused by a bad copper washer over the drain plug, though there\u2019s a chance it could relate to the fancy drain plug that incorporates a sensor for the oil temperature gauge. At any rate, I\u2019m not even seeing drips on my driveway, and I\u2019m including the original drain plug.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1666447172, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9846341, "authorName": "VolvoDriver (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvodriver/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@VolvoDoug: Yes, I describe the sunroof above in my description, but yes it is an aftermarket power sunroof I purchased and installed from a place in Nashville that specializes in sunroofs and upholstery. It\u2019s a very nice system that is smooth and reliable. Thank you for the copper seal point about the oil drip. That confirms my mechanic\u2019s suspicion that it merely needs a new copper washer, which some quickie oil change places don\u2019t carry, but I avoid those places anyway!", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1666447201, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9846345, "authorName": "VolvoDriver (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvodriver/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@drfiredog: I\u2019m not a mechanic, and I really don\u2019t know what you mean by a deformed/roached frame rail. I\u2019m definitely not trying to be difficult here, but if something happened to it, I am not aware of it. If you can point me to what you\u2019re wondering about, maybe I can help, but I\u2019m not sure.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1666447230, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9846352, "authorName": "VolvoDriver (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvodriver/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Well, thanks again to everyone else making informed and helpful comments and well wishes here. I figured this is definitely a long-enough introduction, and just wanted to answer the actual questions, so I didn\u2019t address all the comments, but both are quite welcome of course!\r\n\r\nI\u2019ll do my best to keep up with questions as they arise, going forward.\r\n\r\nThanks again all for your interest!\r\n\r\nThe old girl\u2019s just got to have a good home with another serious 240 enthusiast!\r\n\r\n\u2026hopefully one with a garage, this time, lol.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1666447283, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9846541, "authorName": "JDB1", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jdb1/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Last question from me - what was the reason for changing the cam to the IPD VX Street Performance camshaft. Was the factory cam having issues, and at the time of the changeover, was any further modifications done when the cam was out? Thanks", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666449485, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9846637, "authorName": "VolvoDriver (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvodriver/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@JDB1 \r\nHey, thanks for the question. Nope, I wasn't having any camshaft issues. When I bought the car (Nov '12) I just thought it would be cool to try and add a little performance without really changing it much from stock, so later in that first year of ownership, I had this new cam installed from IPD, along with IPD's \"high flow sport\" exhaust for non-turbo 240s. I liked the warm purr and the little extra get-up and go that these upgrades offered.", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1666450507, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9846679, "authorName": "VolvoDriver (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvodriver/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@JDB1\r\nMore specifically, here are my notes from what happened during that specific service interval (Oct '13):\r\n\"Install new IPD performance camshaft and valve cover gasket and replace exhaust with new IPD sport exhaust for non-turbo 240s (thus increasing horsepower by approximately 25-30 from 114 to approximately 140), change oil and filter, install small tachometer, replace trip odometer button, fix exhaust inlet pipe, secure passenger front speaker\"", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1666450903, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9846857, "authorName": "Mordizzle", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/mordizzle/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Regarding sunroof. Aftermarket, 245s didn't come with factory sunroof. Requires structural modification as wagon has extra cross brace over sedan. \ud83d\ude0e minor issues not withstanding rare Brick. GLWTA", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1666452634, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9846961, "authorName": "OnlyVolvo240", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/onlyvolvo240/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "For anyone new-to-Volvos, the oil pan drain plug is sealed with a round copper gasket, which is meant to be replaced at every oil change. For those of us who change the oil frequently, the gasket is a bother, and indeed, the process of loosening the drain plug can be... messy. A solution to both matters is to replace the drain plug with a Fumoto Oil Drain Valve. The valve comes with an affixed paper gasket, easily removed with a sharp blade, and once installed with a proper Volvo copper gasket, that's it, forever. The valves are bulletproof, they do not hang down lower than everything else, and they make it possible to change the oil very quickly with minimal mess. (Not much one can do to make changing the oil filter less messy, save using an aftermarket kit to relocate the filter and change the orientation to vertical.) I've used Fumoto valves since 1982 on every car we've run.", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1666453603, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9850419, "authorName": "VolvoDriver (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvodriver/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Adding a new, post-recent-service shot of the engine, as I had those strut caps replaced amid all the other previously cited work. Also realized I'd not included a shot of the pad underneath the hood, so I added that.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1666472164, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9850472, "authorName": "BaRob", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/barob/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@VolvoDriver. Chris, I love reading what you write about this sweet wagon. I can tell, you write with love about it. \n\nGreat job on the upgrades and the maintenance. I'm afraid you may have sellers remorse afterward. I mean, it took 2.5 years to convince yourself. It is a rare bird, it looks great, and I'm sure it's an excellent driver. Very nice touch having the same wheel/tire combo for the spare. No one needs to know when you've had a flat! \n\nI love this model, too, that the tail lights do NOT go up to the roof. Classic indeed.\n\nI pray the best for you in the auction.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1666472575, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9851787, "authorName": "lucent", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/lucent/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@volvodriver I was actually looking for the black door strips below the scrappers but thanks I found them.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666481829, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9852264, "authorName": "youandyourcar", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/youandyourcar/", "bidAmount": 3350, "content": "$3,350 bid placed by youandyourcar", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666488201, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 9852414, "authorName": "VolvoDriver (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvodriver/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@BaRob\r\nHey, many thanks for the kind words. Yes, it's an excellent driver, made for road trips, and I'd not hesitate to take it anywhere. Funny you mention those tail lights. Mom's third Volvo (after her second 240 was t-boned and the airbag broke her nose but she thinks maybe saved her life) was a Ford-era wagon with those awful tail lights. Let's just say it never quite earned her love, and she's happily spent the last decade in a Nissan.\r\n\r\n@lucent\r\nOh, whoops, cool, glad you found what you were after.\r\n\r\nCheers,\r\n\r\nChris", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1666490228, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9852477, "authorName": "vintage_volvo", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/vintage_volvo/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@volvodriver, those \"Ford era\" Volvos are still Volvo safe. The 240 still has the best all time safety record.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1666491389, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9852952, "authorName": "OldFarht", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/oldfarht/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I use a lot of copper washers on my other cars, and they're not terribly expensive in bulk. Once you have changed the oil a number of times, and you've saved the old washers, string them on a pice of copper wire, clean them w. brakleen, and heat with a torch them until they glow red. That will anneal/soften them so they can be reused. Pickle them with a light acid to remove the black oxides (even milk, with lactic acid, will work, if you give it enough time, but I use Sparex, a jewelers' pickle), and they'll be dead soft and a dull pink. \r\n\r\nDepending on how many Volvos you have running, a dozen or less can last the life of the cars. Two will keep you going if you don't mind doing one at a time. Just take a moment to see which side is pushed up into the drain.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1666508268, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9852987, "authorName": "vintage_volvo", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/vintage_volvo/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@volvodriver, it seems nearly every wagon (suv, crossover or whatever they get called) has some form of Ford era awful tail lights. Ford nearly ruined Volvo in the U.S. when they could have prospered if given money and autonomy like China, Volvos got some miscellaneous Ford parts but technology went from Volvo to Ford not vice versa, ask any police officer or insurance agent about Volvo safety. Nissan is still struggling, I wonder why your mother would buy something different if the Volvo saved her life.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666513832, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9853273, "authorName": "VolvoDriver (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvodriver/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Good point and great question, @vintage_volvo. I sometimes wish she'd bought a third 240 at that time after the accident. I think Mom was just seduced by the newness of the Ford-era Volvo wagon at the time, but it was not as reliable as her 240s were and was in the shop a lot more. My initial issue with it was the lack of cabin space, as I'm tall and had no leg room up front with the huge plastic dashboard which felt nothing like the openness of the 240 front-seat interiors. She eventually grew disgusted with this car due to its lack of reliability and high cost of repairs, soured on the brand as a result and somehow made it into the Nissan, an Altima that she still loves after a decade, despite my many attempts to lure her back into 240 land with attractive listings! Interestingly enough, my Volvo-specialist mechanic was just telling me how his bread and butter these days are mostly Ford-era and newer models. He said that the 240s he fixes are fewer and farther between, which one could attribute to there being fewer on the road, but he said he thought that once he fixes them every few years, they tend to stay fixed, whereas the newer ones keep coming back more often.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1666529846, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9853636, "authorName": "Mordizzle", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/mordizzle/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@vintage_volvo\r\nFord bought Volvo cars in 1999 for 6 billion . No 240 series were Ford products. Volvo hoped Fords $$$ would increase R & D budget, however Ford used much of Volvo's chassis tech for the Taurus (500)\r\n& flex wagon . To Ford's credit, when things went South in 2009, they sold off much of the under performing lines rather than file bankruptcy\r\n( GM) . Geely bought Volvo cars for 2 B. and the rest is history. \ud83d\ude0e", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1666534322, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9853850, "authorName": "vintage_volvo", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/vintage_volvo/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@mordizzle, Ford had already been contributing to Volvo's demise and before having to file for bankruptcy bailed themselves out in 2006 and the sale of Aston Martin, Jaguar, Land Rover and Volvo was part of the plan to become One Ford again and Lincoln. Ford was the only US company that didn't receive government bail out money, they were already restructuring on their own. Volvo's 2B value was caused by themselves.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1666537056, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9856203, "authorName": "JetstreamRider", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jetstreamrider/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@VolvoDriver, I\u2019ve always dug the look of Virgos on most models. A tourquise \u201893 240 like yours (minus the \u201cClassic\u201d) has been my son\u2019s daily driver through high school. With >275k miles, we\u2019ve never had a concern for his safety behind the wheel of this wagon or our \u201884 245 \u201cfamily spare.\u201d He says he will only drive 240\u2019s. GLWTA!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666551179, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9857616, "authorName": "Sydbarrett", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/sydbarrett/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Great car for an LS3 transplant.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666557813, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9858949, "authorName": "VolvoDriver (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvodriver/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@jetstreamRider\r\nCouldn't agree more. Love the Virgos too. Perfect car for a kid to be safe in while learning the ropes of the road. If I had my own kid, I'd start the driving experience in a 240 just as my Dad did for me...and probably at least insist on it while the kid remained under my roof! Too many kids get new cars at 16 now! \r\n\r\nI know of a gentleman senior to myself who has at least several adult sons in their 20s and/or 30s. He likes working on 240s and made a promise to them that as long as they agree to keep driving them, he'll fix them and keep them on the road for them for free. Sweet deal. These cars can really get under your skin and become a part of the family. Sounds sappy, but it happened to me, and I know I'm far from alone on that.\r\n\r\n@Sydbarrett\r\nMixed feelings on the V8 swap. Could be super cool, no doubt. I know folks have done this, but sacrificing the original engine just seems painful and almost wrong to me somehow. Though I do like some upgrades and added my own few tweaks to this one, I guess I lean a little more toward stock when it comes down to it.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1666567126, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9859176, "authorName": "Sydbarrett", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/sydbarrett/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I completely understand I am a Volkswagen purist. Paul Newman did a Volvo sleeper with a Ford V8 and I loved it.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1666570082, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9859251, "authorName": "englebretsona", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/englebretsona/", "bidAmount": 3950, "content": "$3,950 bid placed by englebretsona", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666570910, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 9861368, "authorName": "OnlyVolvo240", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/onlyvolvo240/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@VolvoDriver \"I know of a gentleman senior to myself who has at least several adult sons in their 20s and/or 30s. He likes working on 240s and made\" a promise to them that as long as they agree to keep driving them, he\u2019ll fix them and keep them on the road for them for free.\" That's me. Number Two Son in Memphis just dinged me for $430 for some recent work on his 244. Gladly paid. He's 31. That's okay. The way I look at it, I have no spare sons... And it's tough to find a safer car. A Unimog? Not really a great commuter vehicle....", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1666624134, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9862438, "authorName": "OnlyVolvo240", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/onlyvolvo240/", "bidAmount": 4500, "content": "$4,500 bid placed by OnlyVolvo240", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666631542, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 9862830, "authorName": "OnlyVolvo240", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/onlyvolvo240/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Speaking of the Ford Taurus.... Some years ago, SITTING AT A RED TRAFFIC LIGHT, my wife was rear ended by a guy in a full sized pickup truck. (Idiot.) She and kid (in the back seat, not the very back) were fine. The tailgate was stove in, and the rear quarter panels and and and. The car was in the shop a full month getting rebuilt (on Idiot's insurance company's dime) and we had a rental while we waited (also on his dime.) The rental was a Taurus wagon, and at one point, I don't remember why, I was on the ground under the back and saw.... the rear bumper was plastic covered styrofoam. No kidding. Now mid-run 240s had Very Serious bumpers fore and aft, but even later, those lightweight aluminum bumpers (as long as the bolt holes weren't rusty from galvanic action) were pretty decent. Seeing that Taurus bumper construction I was seriously horrified, and drove the rest of the time we had the car as though I had a valued Aunt strapped to the front grille and the rear hatch. \nAs for Geely, well they're not as awful as they were. The first iteration of this car, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geely_HQ, a hatchback, had the rear hatch welded shut, creating a totally inaccessible space in the car. Astonishing. I'm sorry they own Volvo. There are a number of reasons for it, but Volvo has a very bad reputation *in* China, partly, I am sure, due to Geely ownership.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666633276, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9863885, "authorName": "vintage_volvo", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/vintage_volvo/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@onlyvolvo240, I don't think you should be bashing Geely, they saved Volvo who are or with the leaders of electric and self driving car technology. Volvos were already popular in China and still are today, possibly Volvo's largest market. I think if not for Geely Volvo would have been the next to go from the US market after the 2009 auto industry restructuring, they were losing market share every year under Ford's ownership, even closed over a quarter of the dealerships.\r\nVolvos (and others) got foam behind plastic covers, actual bumpers are now part of the body structure, with Volvo's safety concerns they may have been the first with that solution and so Ford was likely to adapt it from Volvo early on.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1666637661, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9864832, "authorName": "OnlyVolvo240", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/onlyvolvo240/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@vintage_volvo I've spent a fair portion of the last 30 years in China, and Geely may have done Volvo a favor, but they are one of the least respected car companies within China. Annual car sales in China are something like 25 million, and recent annual Volvo sales in China were like 150,000. Same year sales in the US were more than 300K, out of 15 million. The list of best selling cars in China does not include Volvo. And every driver I know in China says that Volvos (in China) are not well made and are hard to repair (not many places *to* repair them) and expensive. \r\nWhen we were first in China, there were 240s being used as taxis (not many) and we were always excited when we scored one (the alternative was a rattletrap pos made in Tianjin called xiali). But like other countries in that part of the world, there is a limit to how *old* you can run a car, at least in the cities, and after a time, the 240s were all banished or scrapped. Pity. Stupid rule. Friends there now are astonished that we're running 30 year old Volvos with 400,000 miles on them...", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666641819, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9865102, "authorName": "stephenstec", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/stephenstec/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Sydbarrett Glad you are still with us, wish you were here.\r\n\r\n@OnlyVolvo240 On my first trip to Albania, in 1992, the only cars that professional drivers would use to take you to remote mountainous areas (virtually the whole country) were Volvo 240s or Mercedes and the real wise guys drove Volvos.\r\n\r\nI'm looking for a 240 of some kind for my two kids to learn to drive on. Have a '92 240GL in Europe, but we are here now.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1666642883, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9865211, "authorName": "vintage_volvo", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/vintage_volvo/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@onlyvolvo240, Volvo market share in the US maxed at about 1% and was down to about .35 % under Ford's ownership, they have yet to reach 1% again, 120,000 units in 2010, 80,000 last year.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1666643325, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9865468, "authorName": "OnlyVolvo240", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/onlyvolvo240/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@vintagevolvo 121K in the US in 2021 (not 300-- mis-added). Last year was weird for lots of industries. \r\nI'd expect Volvo sales to drop in China this year-- be interesting to see whether they do or not.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666644508, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9867369, "authorName": "vintage_volvo", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/vintage_volvo/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@onlyvolvo240, yeah, I got it wrong too, still haven't hit 1% yet but definetly on the rise.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666652020, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9870375, "authorName": "louiswarren", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/louiswarren/", "bidAmount": 7600, "content": "$7,600 bid placed by louiswarren", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666709234, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 9871019, "authorName": "David_P", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/david_p/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@OnlyVolvo240 Re: bumpers, there's nothing unusual or horrifying about the bumpers on that Taurus. This has been the norm for many, many years and is universal now, except on trucks, which are not required to meet any bumper standards and therefore don't have any energy-absorbing structures. Behind the foam you saw behind the Taurus fascia was a bumper beam attached to energy-absorbing shocks. Bumpers have been at a 2.5mph standard since about the early 1980s, prior to which they were at 5mph from 1974. I think there was some auto industry lobbying involved in relaxing the standard to save money. The earlier 240 bumpers obviously met the 5mph standard, but I think the trimmer ones (1983? something like that) as seen on this car meet the 2.5mph standard.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666714073, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9878049, "authorName": "OnlyVolvo240", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/onlyvolvo240/", "bidAmount": 7700, "content": "$7,700 bid placed by OnlyVolvo240", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666750590, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 9879048, "authorName": "time_vans", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/time_vans/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Does anyone have any sense of how many of these are left on the road? Is there any sort of Volvo Classic registry? If they only made 800 wagons with the classic badging there can\u2019t be too many still going after 30 years. And even fewer in manual. And I believe the color choice was between this blue/green and maroon?\r\n\r\nIt\u2019s a sweet rig - GLWTA!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666788185, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9879267, "authorName": "VolvoDriver (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvodriver/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@time_vans Thanks! That's a great question. I guess it depends on how many of these cars were actually \"registered\" with Volvo North America and how many owners never did. I suppose I \"registered\" when I contacted VNA and got that 100K-mile badge that you see on the glove box, though it was already well past 100K at that point. The next owner can contact VNA with a photo when they hit the 200K-mile mark, and they'll send another one, probably along with some Volvo swag like they did for me! They were very friendly, and a nice lady named Donna there was a huge help when I was looking up obscure details over the years, researching wheels and whatnot.\r\n\r\nSome folks have also registered their 240s with various other Volvo clubs and organizations, but for me VNA seemed the only true/official route for this. I guess the next question is do they (or would they) share this information publicly, somewhere? I really don't know. I agree though, it would be cool to know how many of those 800 are still out there.\r\n\r\nYears ago, I even pitched VNA on the idea of revamping the 240 model like VW did with the Beetle, keeping the body but updating the rest with iPhone-era bells and whistles, but they didn't really respond to that seriously, other than suggesting that I should start a social media campaign, haha. I'll leave that to someone from a younger generation!\r\n\r\nAnyway, I suspect that this one is exceedingly rare, as you said. If there were only 800, thirty years ago, how many of those were five-speed manual? I know I read that only four of the 800 were manuals, many years ago, somewhere, but I have no way of verifying that. Maybe VNA could? Also, the sunroof, turbo gauges and five Virgos make this one pretty special, if not unique, I think, but maybe I'm a little biased. :)", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666791594, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9879819, "authorName": "Spd2918", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/spd2918/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "The comment section is the main reason I lurk on this site. I learn so much about these wonderfully odd cars.", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1666797287, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9882912, "authorName": "VolvoguyKC", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvoguykc/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Cool wheels. Cool car. GLWA", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1666810477, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9896860, "authorName": "JGraham", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jgraham/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Great color on this wagon, and looks great on the turbo wheels. Never knew they did a Limited Edition. You'd think maybe the limited edition could have had leather seats? Oh well....still a very cool well preserved wagon, and no reserve!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666920277, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9898072, "authorName": "VolvoDriver (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvodriver/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "All quiet on the Volvo front...on its last big day...anybody have any leftover questions? Maybe I answered everything with all those perhaps too-long comment posts, LOL. I tried to be thorough! Meanwhile, here's an oldie but goodie for anyone who might've missed it:", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666961336, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9898158, "authorName": "VolvoDriver (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvodriver/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Speaking of breakdowns, over the course of 10 years of driving this car, I've had only three. One was due to an improperly installed water pump the day before, which then failed. The second was due to overextending the parking brake on a steep incline, which then wouldn't disengage. These two required a tow and were promptly fixed. The third was due to a failing ignition switch, which I just replaced with a new one. I was able to push-start it in second gear that time. Anyway, it holds a pretty sweet reliability record for 10 years. Sorry--forgot that there's some adult language in the Grynch video...", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1666962336, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9898927, "authorName": "gonavy78", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/gonavy78/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I'm an interested observer on this one since I currently own three 240 wagons in comparable condition (78 manual, 89 automatic and 83 manual). What a shame on the paint... unfortunately this is not a rare occurence on 240's of this vintage in certain colors. As an older driver, I used to always prefer a manual but find myself enjoying the cruising experience in my 89 automatic more often. Go figure. Gotta say I am baffled by the decision to cut a hole in the cargo deck rather than one of the side panels or just hiding it under the rear seat. Just a personal opinion.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1666969965, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9900418, "authorName": "VolvoDriver (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvodriver/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "All fair points, and wow, nice collection! \r\n\r\nI tend to prefer the 5-speed manual, as my Dad's '82 240 DL, which I learned to drive on, had the four-speed manual with overdrive, which always seemed to come disconnected or have electrical issues. Between my two 240 wagons, which were both 5-speed manuals, I drove an automatic Camry for 10 years while looking for this one. A trusty choice, that Camry, but I was bored! I like to shift. So much more control and fun when driving. Of the three we've owned, my wife's 240 wagon, however, was automatic, at her insistence, as I never got her to drive a manual comfortably. You'll see it peeking out in a few pics; it was red and sold in August on eBay.\r\n\r\nAs for the paint, despite its imperfections, to me it still looks pretty great, especially compared to any of the other 240s I see still driving around this neck of the woods...yeesh. I'm guessing 20 years garaged followed by 10 with me, mostly exposed outside. In fact, I went to vote the other day, and an older lady came up to me, all smiles, telling me how great it looked. Here are a couple fresh pics.\r\n\r\nAs for the deck-cutting decision for the subwoofer install, I know what you mean. It happened in stages. While I have grown to love jazz, I'm still a rock guy through and through, and I just wanted to have the rock hit a little harder without altering the car much. I first went the route you suggested, with a narrow/shallow sub under the seat, but that accomplished very little. \r\n\r\nWhen I took it back to the custom car audio place, the owner said that the locking compartment under the cargo hold (the one some 245 owners have stuffed with an OEM collapsible rear-facing child's seat) would be perfect. In fact, he'd argued that in the first place and I'd said no. Well, he was right. It needed a bigger sub to accomplish its mission, and the new sub wouldn't fit in the side panels or under the seats (and I wanted to save one side for the full-size Virgo and Michelin that I replaced the inferior spare donut with). \r\n\r\nAnyway, he had to talk me into it but did a great job on the install with carpeting and sound dampening, heavy duty metal grille, etc. It's proven to be a perfect spot for it. It's not in the way of anything, works great, looks great (in my opinion) and still leaves room for storage next to it in the carpeted compartment while not obstructing any cargo above it in the hold.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666979509, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9900491, "authorName": "zoltan", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/zoltan/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I'm enjoying every single comment here, no matter the souce. It's like BaT of old!", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1666979819, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9901985, "authorName": "cornfieldave", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cornfieldave/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Great car; kudos to seller, @VolvoDriver for being so available from the start. Too many vehicles didn't get the attention/care while being used and then during the auction don't get the informational support giving the buyers confidence to bid. Props to you on both counts. The Comments section is \"The Tale of the Sale\" and this one is worth reading.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1666985804, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9902157, "authorName": "VolvoDriver (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvodriver/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Hey, thanks Dave. I thought maybe I was just boring people to death, haha! This car (and a few others like it) have been a real part of my life for a long time, so it's kind of been fun to talk about it with people who share an interest. Around here on BAT, maybe I'm not just \"that weirdo with the old Volvo\" LOL.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1666986448, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9903175, "authorName": "willinma", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/willinma/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Love it! I hope to someday soon do my own \"woofer wagon\" as my kids call it. I have a love for hip-hop that does not match my age or persona, so mine will certainly have some booms :-)", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666990460, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9903773, "authorName": "time_vans", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/time_vans/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Surprised at the slow action so far. 240 wagons are such an iconic ride and couple that with the rarity of the Classic edition and this thing has got to keep climbing in value. Add a solid ownership history and this is shaping up to be a bargain.\r\n\r\nWish I was less overloaded with 90s vehicles right now!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666992617, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 9904115, "authorName": "jmloca", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jmloca/", "bidAmount": 7800, "content": "$7,800 bid placed by jmloca", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1666993940, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 9904179, "authorName": "OnlyVolvo240", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/onlyvolvo240