[{"id": 1268908, "authorName": "david42", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/david42/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "The market is flooded! A similar car, also in Florida is currently for sale on ebay. But the ebay one is a diesel stick-shift.\nhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/1980-Citroen-Excellent-condition-2-5-TRD-Turbo-II-Low-miles-/131988643114\n\n[Edit: must be the same seller.... the ebay car is shown in one of the BaT pictures.]", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1478119810, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1268941, "authorName": "CEC (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cec/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@david42\n\nGuilty ! I am the one flooding the market ...\n2 different CX models with 2 different philosophies that I like both for different reasons.\n\nThis GTI is really nice and a solid no-issue car.", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1478120189, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1268977, "authorName": "David_P", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/david_p/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Man, I love CXes. I have heard that diesels are at least as nice with an automatic as they are with a manual. The automatic with gas engine on this is a bit of a turn-off, but how does it compare to the same engine with a manual? And @CEC, how would you describe the two philosophies of these two powertrains?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478121181, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1268984, "authorName": "2chevaux", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/2chevaux/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I love to live in California but car wise it sometimes sucks!\nNo chance to get an 87 CX registered here :-(", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1478121383, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1268993, "authorName": "supergenius", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/supergenius/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "CEC, can you tell me if there is a shop or mechanic in the area with Citroen knowledge/experience? I live not far from Orlando. Thanks!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478121848, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1269022, "authorName": "nclsgbrt", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/nclsgbrt/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "It's your chance to own a car sharing it's mirror with an aston martin virage!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478123422, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1269027, "authorName": "Britnic777", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/britnic777/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@2chevaux\nI think Cali smog exempts pre '98 diesels, so provided you have a correctly imported matching numbers oil burning CX, there may be a chance. But please double-check that this is an accurate interpretation of the regs.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478123512, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1269037, "authorName": "CEC (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cec/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@David P\n\nThe Turbo Diesel is a fast long distance cruiser. It just feels right at 75 + mph with the impression that you could go around the world without breaking a sweat. \nOn the other hand, this GTI gas powered is more fun with the auto trans combined with the hydraulic suspension. You just want to drive it with the window down, your elbow sticking out and let the car do its thing. It is hard to explain but quite obvious when driving both cars back to back...\nI have owned manual transmission gas powered 81 Prestige and 83 2400 GTI. I still prefer the auto transmission. \nCXes Diesel with auto trans are extremely rare. Most of them were delivered in the Limousine version, a LWB Prestige with the diesel engine.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478124447, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1269056, "authorName": "CEC (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cec/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@supergenius\n\nI have used the same shop in Longwood for 13 years bringing them all kind of French cars. Most workshop manuals can be found on the Net in English.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478124842, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1269187, "authorName": "Myron_Vernis", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/myron_vernis/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I use a 1985 CX Estate for semi-regular transportation and long distance hauling. It is a five speed with the same 2.5 liter gas engine as this car. There is no finer vehicle with which to cruise our highways.", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1478131731, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1269369, "authorName": "C107", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/c107/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I own a 85 first series CX with the same engine but a stick. Not sure about the auto, but mine has lots of torque putting my V8 Benz to shame. The ride is sublime, quiet and so utterly comfy.\n\nForget about the DS. Beautiful cars to look at, but no contest to a CX. Nothing ... really nothing! ... drives like a CX. A true joy. The DIRAVI steering is magic. You have to have a day behind the wheel to learn to appreciate a CX - after that, you'll either be hooked for life or just walk away. There's nothing inbetween. \n\nAnd pu-leeeeze: forget about the myths about these cars being unreliable. They're not, just as long as they are in good hands and properly maintained. This one looks really good, so do not worry about the mileage.", "likes": 7, "timestamp": 1478143797, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1269374, "authorName": "C107", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/c107/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "oh! the buyer should check the clutch. with this mileage it should be about time to be replaced ... however, it's quite the business to repair, as the whole engine needs to be pulled. costly work that put many a good CX to an end in the past, as it was often deemed too expensive looking at the car's overall worth.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478144494, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1269379, "authorName": "C107", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/c107/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "yeah right, the clutch. on an auto. *eyeroll*\nsorry, folks.", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1478144968, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1269439, "authorName": "FSJ_Europe", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/fsj_europe/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "The CX GTI 2.5L is not a slow car even with an auto, for info the fastest CX was the GTI Turbo, same engine with a Turbo, and the CX diesel Turbo 2 was the fastest diesel of the day.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1478153070, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1269447, "authorName": "CitroenDS23", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/citroends23/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@c107 The CX Is a mighty car however The DS Still king and the SM Debut the steering,I truly think you need all 3 the DS,SM&CX =)", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1478154786, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1269530, "authorName": "MendelsGarage", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/mendelsgarage/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "GTI with automatic always sounded like a joke to me. GLWS", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478176180, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1269584, "authorName": "oldukguy", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/oldukguy/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Yes, I am a Citroen fan and a former Citroen owner. Gotta be honest and disclose that the CX was not my favrit model. Not exactly sure Why. So, I'll keep my powder dry and wait until a delicious SM drops into my lap ......", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478178137, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1269674, "authorName": "C107", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/c107/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@CitroenDS23 ... I hear you! All three are wonderful, but when it comes to driving, the CX beats them all. Why? Both the DS and the SM are very noisy on the long haul, the DS because of the engine intruding in the cabin and the SM because it needs to rev to keep moving (which IS nice noise, alright, but can do your head in after a few hours on the highway). CX is the best car of those three, period.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478183785, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1270093, "authorName": "CitroenDS23", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/citroends23/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@c107 yes the DS 19 & 21 After a while is pretty noisy but have you ever driven a 5 speed ds23 injected with that one the problem goes away in 5th gear,The SM The noise is nice one time did 2600 miles in it.But yes the cx so far as noise goes and cruising in general i agree but thats y you own all 3 of them lol", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1478200611, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1270345, "authorName": "cleme1224", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cleme1224/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I like it, but i don't think this car can pass the smog in california", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478204787, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1270381, "authorName": "MotoLegends15", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/motolegends15/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Cool car!!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478205268, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1270572, "authorName": "twigeater", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/twigeater/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I ended up with an older one of these years ago, somehow after an ill-fated trip to the corner liquor store to get a six pack of stout beer. A few beers later chatting with a guy I met on the way, we both agreed I should have that car. At least I didn't return home empty handed. My wife was not pleased that the beer ran out before she could be properly medicated to deal with another of my poor decisions. It still needed to be federalized and it was somehow snuck out of customs several \"owners\" ago.\n\nMy new \"friend\" (actually, we turned into fast friends) explained to me some of what needed to be done and what he had done already.\n\nIn his process of figuring this out, he spotted one driving over the Golden Gate towards Sausalito one evening. He had to follow and hopefully get some tips. He followed it through a few neighborhoods and eventually to a restaurant. He stopped the owner before he headed in for dinner and gathered a lot of great information. Who knew Carlos Santana was a Citroen guy. \n\nFunny how strange cars bring people together.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1478213506, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1270594, "authorName": "Rudernst", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rudernst/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "this is a facelifted plastic bumper car\r\nand honestly, you dont want that\r\n\r\nthe prefacelift cars are much more genuine Citroen, weirder...\r\n\r\nthe facelift made the CX slightly mire main mainstream and cheaper to build\r\nthere were no benefits for the buyers in getting the faclift\r\n\r\nas the the running cost of there is high until you get them sorted\r\nand the purchase price is\r\nyou dont want to start with the wrong age of car\r\n\r\nbeen there, done that, sold it\r\n\r\nRE", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478214545, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1270699, "authorName": "citrogek", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/citrogek/", "bidAmount": 1800, "content": "$1,800 bid placed by citrogek", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478220279, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1270725, "authorName": "Beyfon", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/beyfon/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@ David P - perhaps I can comment on CX models and drivetrains... Back in the 1980's through the 90's I would buy used CX either in the Stockholm area (where they were not terribly popular as they are not all that great for city driving and parking in tight spots...) or buy them locally from car dealers that were scared of the perceived complexity. I'd drive them for a few weeks, fettling and cleaning them and then flipping them for good money to people from the Lapland area who were looking for great long distance cruisers who could tow 4 snowmobiles on the trailer and have great handling on icy roads. I probably owned somewhere between 30-40 CX; gas, diesel, turbo, manual, auto, wagons, strippers or Prestige... you name it! \n\nDespite the heresy here at BaT, this is my favorite configuration. I prefer Series 2 cars for the better build quality and in my eyes better looking interior. I prefer the short wheelbase, the lwb cars are just...long! I prefer the 2.5 GTI engine. Bomb proof, and fits the car just right. And I prefer the auto. The manual just isn't right for a CX. You have this relaxed cruiser with a torquey engine, and then a manual tranny that feels like it was lifted from a Scania 141. Long, heavy throws and slow synchros. Fairly heavy clutch that's hard to operate smoothly. Compare that to one of the best automatics of the 80's, smooth shifting, and with a lockup so it still doesn't sap power on the highway. \n\nToo bad I won't be able to convince my employer to replace my company car with this lovely CX. \n\nPS- @ MendelsGarage Yes, the GTI name was always odd to me. Gran Turismo Yes. Indeed also Injected. But by the mid -80's the GTI name for sure meant hot hatches and a lot of people couldn't see the CX being a GTI... Good for me, because the GTI were typically the best bargains to buy used.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1478222230, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1270733, "authorName": "95m3ltw", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/95m3ltw/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Wonders what vehicles the folks below must drive often to think 152ft lbs of torque in a 3000lb vehicle, is \"torquey\"? Love CX's but never felt anything resembling \"torquey\".", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1478223000, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1270744, "authorName": "dennis", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/dennis/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "the only two ways to bring in a non California car into CA is to be the owner and moving to CA. If a pre 98 diesel says 50 State compliant you should be good. Obviously I talking about the diesel he is selling. not this car.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478223927, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1270822, "authorName": "C107", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/c107/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@95m3ltw ... drive it and you'll know it. The 2.5l engine will pull strong on whatever occasion. Have it rolling in fifth gear at about 1100rpm, just above idle, and it will pull off strong and quick, right until top speed, with no shudders, no complaints. I share @Beyfons sentiment, the engine suits the car so well, and you don't need the auto as you don't have to change gears often anyway ... enter the highway and leave it in fifth until you arrive.\n\nAnd btw, my second classic is a V8 Benz, a C107. The CX is quicker, quieter and more comfy (and that really says something, as the Benz is a fantastic cruiser on its own!). You really need to push the Benz to keep up with the CX, up until 90-100mph, above which the 80 horses surplus will show from the V8.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478230550, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1270840, "authorName": "Hansjorg", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/hansjorg/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@2chevaux:\nUnfortunately I have to live in California for various reasons. It doesn't prevent me from driving the cars I like. As I said many times before, there are many other state DMVs gladly taking your money and sending you title and registration, even to your CA address.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478231721, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1270887, "authorName": "FSJ_Europe", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/fsj_europe/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Can't say either that a 150 ft.lbs engine is torquey ? Maybe the 150 ft.lbs are already there at low rpms ? The GTI turbo got 217 ft.lbs which is correct for the car weight.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478237866, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1270899, "authorName": "Rammstein", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rammstein/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "These drive sooo good, this is so comfortable to drive that you wonder why every other car still uses antique steel springs dating back from the horse and carriage.\nAnd to me the 2500 GTI engine combined with the automatic gearbox, this being the Series 2 (which is much much better built) is the most desirable of the CX range.\nThe key to the highway , the one to have for me, for me, formidable !(as they say in tge Dordogne)\nNumber 2 would be a Series 2 Estate Turbo Diesel with a 5-speed gearbox.\nThe Series 2 has much better rust protection, the plastic bumpers are very practical when you moore the CX (you do NOT park it) and it is technically far more reliable.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1478241230, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1271170, "authorName": "David_P", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/david_p/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@beyfon, thanks for your comment on drivetrains. I am sort of put off by automatics, even though some cars are better suited to them. This fell into the \"don't know which\" category! I would like to replace my boring Japanese appliance car with something not boring, and while I'm not sure it's a wise decision to replace a low-mile Honda with a 30-year-old Citroen, it certainly is the anti-Honda.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1478271591, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1271180, "authorName": "CEC (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cec/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "For anyone in the Orlando area interested in seeing the car, I will make myself available for the next few days. At the same time, you can check out the TRD but also a couple of other interesting cars ...", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478271841, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1271929, "authorName": "pblake123", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/pblake123/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I bid on this on ebay a couple of weeks ago. Hmmm... maybe I will try again :-)", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478291772, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1271980, "authorName": "pblake123", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/pblake123/", "bidAmount": 2500, "content": "$2,500 bid placed by pblake123", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478292587, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1272033, "authorName": "David_P", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/david_p/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@CEC, so what else do you have?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478293587, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1272045, "authorName": "CEC (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cec/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@pblake123\nFirst thank you for your bid. Second, this car has not been advertised prior to this BaT listing except on my website.\n\n@David P\nThe other CX (the TRD), Renault, Peugeot(s) and my recently sold Euro W124 300TD 5 Spd.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478294442, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1272055, "authorName": "pblake123", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/pblake123/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@CEC - you're right, just checked my bid history on eBay and it was a green CX25 Athena in California! Well I guess I get a second chance at a CX! What are the odds!?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478295202, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1272056, "authorName": "pblake123", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/pblake123/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@CEC and that guy wrote in ALL CAPS so I'm glad I didnt buy it ;-)", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478295261, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1272060, "authorName": "CEC (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cec/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@pblake123\nI don't blame you !!!\nI do not believe the Athena you mention had AC.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478295386, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1272063, "authorName": "pblake123", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/pblake123/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@CEC and it was a manual, which I wasnt super excited about in a car like this. I have plenty of 3 pedal cars, and this just seems like a floating-on-air cruiser...", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478295508, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1272068, "authorName": "CEC (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cec/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I like the term \"wafting\" as used in the Jalopnik video about the TRD Mike K purchased from me earlier this year.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1478296239, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1272082, "authorName": "Mike_K", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/mike_k/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@David P - the CX is pretty much anti everything. Take what you thought you knew about cars, machinery and driving and throw it out the window. The CX is so different from any other car I've ever owned or driven - and there have been many! - I sometimes forget in my other cars that the steering won't center itself, I can't drive over railroad tracks at full bore and bringing the car to a full stop requires decidedly more effort from brakes that are merely hydraulicly assisted.\n\nIf it makes you feel any less uneasy about using a 30 year old Citroen as a daily driver, I've put nearly 10,000 miles on my CX in less than a year. And while it hasn't been completely trouble free all the stuff I've replaced - coolant hoses, hydraulic lines, etc. - are age relative consumables.\n\nI purchased my CX TRD from the seller and he is a stand up, no BS guy that accurately represents his cars. I would buy again with no reservation from Nicolas.\n\nAnd whomever ends up buying this make sure you join Citroenvie! It's a tight knit, helpful community that makes it fun to own one of these.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1478297005, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1272119, "authorName": "rlbatch", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rlbatch/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@CEC Do you have a Peugeot 404 4 door sedan, or could you get a good one?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478298672, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1272181, "authorName": "CEC (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cec/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@rlbatch\r\nPlease send me an email via the \"contact seller\".\r\n\r\n@Mike K\r\nThanks Mike. I am glad you are enjoying your CX. Can't believe you drove it 10K miles in 8 months !!!!!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478302468, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1273352, "authorName": "PG1", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/pg1/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Few cars still look futuristic at 30 years old. If you haven't experienced the manic carpet ride in one of these make sure you do one day.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478470595, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1273420, "authorName": "Citroenuar", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/citroenuar/", "bidAmount": 2600, "content": "$2,600 bid placed by Citroenuar", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478483498, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1273504, "authorName": "PG1", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/pg1/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Majic not manic....autocomplete irony!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478502571, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1273510, "authorName": "Frenchbuff", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/frenchbuff/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "One bit of experience learned during one of the last Northfield Mntn annual Citroen Rendezvous before the event moved to Saratoga NY: It was a very hot Father's Day weekend in Northfield Mass at the old ski resort - can't remember how many yrs ago, but maybe a sign of early global warming: A CX owner from Midland Mich. had driven his car to the meet, and was leaving for home on Sunday when his engine shut down on the field. On examination, we noticed the plastic intake manifold, which is situated above the exhaust manifold (one of the least brilliant details I ever saw on a Citroen), had collapsed from intake suction! It was so hot the polypropylene hotplate-welded manifold couldn't take it. One of our members managed to stuff some pieces of broomstick into the thing to prop it open so the engine could breathe and run. \nWhen I saw the situation I realized the Citroen engineers had made a major mistake - they had used propylene instead of nylon. Nylon can take engine heat, as its melting point is around 500 F. Propylene melts at a lower temperature - it's best used for kitchen containers and battery cases - for its acid resistance, which nylon doesn't have. \nThe crazy thing was, I happened to have the only spare plastic intake manifold for this car in all of N. America - in my sample drawer in Detroit. Sometime before this happening, I had been consulting on engineering plastics usage in car parts with a Citroen engineer in Paris and had been shown this manifold and given one to take back to Detroit. Being Dupont's Engineering Polymers consultant to the auto industry, I was always looking to Europe for its early adoption of high strength plastics and bringing those ideas back to my customers. At that time I hadn't known about how the CX engine was set up, as I had been driving only DSs since 1962 and later SMs. \nAs the CX engine would run well enough for him to limp to Boston to stay with friends temporarily, I told him I'd get my office to send the new intake to him the next day, as he needed it to make it back to Michigan - a good 700+ miles. I also recommended he leave either in the morning or night when temps were cooler, to minimize idling time and wrap some alum. foil around it to keep the black plastic from absorbing radiant heat along with convective heat. He got home with the Fedexed part, and I learned later Citroen had replaced the plastic intake with cast aluminum, at a significant weight penalty, when they really should have swapped in nylon to the same molds they already had. What I had been given was a leftover from the material change, but didn't get that information during our meeting! \nSo my suggestion is that the next owner of this CX look for one of those replacement aluminum intakes before this one gets too hot. Dave Burnham in Delancey NY probably has one in his parts stash. If not, shield this intake with whatever you can rig up!", "likes": 7, "timestamp": 1478508349, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1273735, "authorName": "David_P", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/david_p/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Frenchbuff - great post.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478537183, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1273763, "authorName": "CEC (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cec/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Frenchbuff\nI must admit that I had never heard of that issue prior to your post.\nYou do not mention the year and engine type of this particular CX ? Maybe this particular problem was unique to the Series I ...\n\nBeing in Florida, I have had the car stuck in traffic more than once over the summer and did not experience any of the symptoms you mention. Furthermore, having owned 9 CX's, mostly Series I, none of those cars suffered from intake manifold collapse. \nI do take your remarks under consideration for future cars though.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478538550, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1273895, "authorName": "rlbatch", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rlbatch/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Does this car have cruise control?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478546117, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1274204, "authorName": "CEC (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cec/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@rlbatch\nIt does not have cruise control.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478551023, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1274484, "authorName": "DSsuper", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/dssuper/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Frenchbuff,\n\nThe collapsed plenum chamber is quite a common occurrence. Mine went 2 weeks after buying the car but luckily I found a used one easily. On the US Citroen Owners website they show you how to put a couple of bolts through to stop the problem. The aluminum ones are from the Turbo models that suck even harder. Very handy, if you can find one.\n\nLooks a great car, GLWTS.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478555637, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1274697, "authorName": "Frenchbuff", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/frenchbuff/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Porsche was the first mfr to use plastic for an intake manifold, starting on some 911s in 1972. I learned this during a biz trip to our Geneva tech center. Our guys in Europe had actually made design proposals to Porsche on using Dupont's short glass fiber-reinforced nylon, but Porsche developed their own design and used a competitive nylon product - even tho Dupont invented nylon in 1938 in the States. Their plastic manifold saved several pounds over cast aluminum, but they had one problem - since the alum. plenum had a cold start injector in it, they put same in the nylon one, which led to a backfire problem. During one road rally with the Brandywine Motorsports club around 1973, I happened to stop at a checkpoint behind a newer 911. When the owner started it up to rejoin the rally, I heard a POP, and saw flames shoot out of his engine grille! I yelled at him to shut the engine down and a marshall ran for an extinguisher. I didn't hang around to see what had happened, but about 11 yrs later I learned that putting a cold start injector in the manifold raised a serious backfire problem during engine rollback - that if the engine doesn't catch right away, but the crank rolls back a bit due to compression in one cylinder, it could cause a plug to fire, and any vapor in the manifold would light off and blow the nylon intake apart! The nylon one, being glued and screwed together, didn't have near the internal pressure capability of the aluminum one. Porsche solved that by reworking the timing to eliminate sparks on rollback. A friend, Dave Finch of Porsche SCCA fame, told me that when he worked at a dealership before he started his own consulting business, and they got a call from a new owner who'd had a startup POP followed by a dead engine, they knew exactly what was needed. Some yrs later, I worked with Dave on designing a bunch of nylon intakes for Ford and others. I'd work on the design, get parts molded and vibration-weld them together in our lab where I had the US's largest vibration welder, and he'd run backfire testing in his lab in Ann Arbor. \r\nNow nylon manifolds are everywhere. I still can't figure out why our Dupont guys in Paris had somehow missed getting our nylon in the CX intake, unless the Citroen beancounters objected to our product price - but then they paid the price later in repairs, higher part weight and much higher part cost. If the new CX owner can't find an aluminum intake, he could look for a sheet of Nomex and wrap the manifold in it - that's what the Viper guys did to keep their side pipes from cooking the car's plastic body.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1478569812, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1274758, "authorName": "beNGK", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/bengk/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Frenchbuff :\n\nsmall world. I worked in Dave's shop in the late 80s while in high school, I'm guessing '88 or '87. he was racing (and pretty much always winning with) the yellow 924 tube frame car in SCCA. I spent time drilling out & replacing Dzus fasteners and other less than technical things, nonetheless, heady stuff for a high school kid.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478574402, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1274871, "authorName": "Frenchbuff", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/frenchbuff/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Wafting - that's a good word CEC - haven't heard that term in quite awhile. Only driven a CX once in Germany - a friend's diesel - can't remember the ride but having started with DSs in '62, to me any hydro Citroen's ride is the closest thing to flying without leaving the ground, altho my son claims his Pug 604 is very near a DS. Another close one is the Renault R16, all torsion bars and super smooth conventionality. I had forgotten that the CX has the Diravi steering like the SM - and that has to be a shock to folks who've never experienced it! \nA large part of the CX comfort has to be the fact that having a separate \"sort of\" chassis, vs the DS/SM monocoque, the interior noise level has to benefit. Those rubber bushes insulating the body from road noise certainly eliminate a lot of racket which comes thru the DS and SM due to their roller bearing-mounted suspension arms - they're the only cars ever built that way, and therein lies a noise path as the bearings transmit directly into the structural boxes of the body. Altho I don't like seeing the mass of an engine lump hanging out at the front of a car, vs the mid engine layout of the DS & SM, I hear the handling of the CX is just fine. And I have to say, those underside pics of the chassis seem to show the cleanest, rustfree bottom I've ever seen on a Citroen - it's remarkable for a car that's 29 yrs old - I'd like to know how it was kept looking so good since all the Citroens I've ever owned showed some biodegrading from being in areas east of the Rockies.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478584066, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1275391, "authorName": "pblake123", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/pblake123/", "bidAmount": 2700, "content": "$2,700 bid placed by pblake123", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478632179, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1275671, "authorName": "pblake123", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/pblake123/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Whats the deal with the spare dash? Can the add-on fuel gauge be returned to stock somehow?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478638543, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1275908, "authorName": "CEC (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cec/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@pblake123\nThat is exactly why I sourced another cluster. I was lucky to find one overseas, and in MPH for that matter, but also out of the same model. The idea was to swap the cluster and return the fuel gage to its proper place. And by the way, as luck would have it (yes sometimes things turn out well unexpectedly), the mileage displayed on the MPH cluster is just a few hundred miles off the current amount of km when doing the conversion !!!\n\nWhen the diagnostic of the malfunctioning gas gage was made, it was not a mechanical problem but most likely a gage issue. At the time, I did not have the MPH cluster, so I choose to have a parallel separate gage installed as shown in the pics.\n\nSo to answer your question, yes, the add-on gage can be eliminated when swapping the cluster, although I did not test the MPH cluster, but there are no reason to believe it is not functioning properly.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478642220, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1276772, "authorName": "Citroenuar", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/citroenuar/", "bidAmount": 2800, "content": "$2,800 bid placed by Citroenuar", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478722609, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1276780, "authorName": "pblake123", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/pblake123/", "bidAmount": 2900, "content": "$2,900 bid placed by pblake123", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478722703, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1276783, "authorName": "NCboatrx", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/ncboatrx/", "bidAmount": 3800, "content": "$3,800 bid placed by NCboatrx", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478722736, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1276795, "authorName": "pblake123", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/pblake123/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Do I need a Citroen, or do I need to go get lunch?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478722959, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1276801, "authorName": "CEC (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cec/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "You could get lunch in a Citroen !!! How is that ...", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1478723015, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1276856, "authorName": "pblake123", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/pblake123/", "bidAmount": 3900, "content": "$3,900 bid placed by pblake123", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478724078, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1276929, "authorName": "stanela", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/stanela/", "bidAmount": 4111, "content": "$4,111 bid placed by stanela", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478725181, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1276930, "authorName": "paolo", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/paolo/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "amazing value, wish i was not so far way on vancouver island, these cars were so ahead of time, drive like a ride on a magic carpet....this is so cheap for what it is", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1478725187, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1276934, "authorName": "pblake123", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/pblake123/", "bidAmount": 4222, "content": "$4,222 bid placed by pblake123", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478725220, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1276935, "authorName": "NCboatrx", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/ncboatrx/", "bidAmount": 4500, "content": "$4,500 bid placed by NCboatrx", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478725229, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1276940, "authorName": "pblake123", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/pblake123/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "sacr\u00e9 bleu!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478725260, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1276941, "authorName": "stanela", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/stanela/", "bidAmount": 4711, "content": "$4,711 bid placed by stanela", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478725275, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1276943, "authorName": "pblake123", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/pblake123/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "or verde?", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1478725277, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1276947, "authorName": "pblake123", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/pblake123/", "bidAmount": 4811, "content": "$4,811 bid placed by pblake123", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478725295, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1276948, "authorName": "stanela", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/stanela/", "bidAmount": 5111, "content": "$5,111 bid placed by stanela", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478725404, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1276950, "authorName": "pblake123", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/pblake123/", "bidAmount": 5222, "content": "$5,222 bid placed by pblake123", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478725490, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1276954, "authorName": "NCboatrx", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/ncboatrx/", "bidAmount": 5800, "content": "$5,800 bid placed by NCboatrx", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478725545, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 1276955, "authorName": "CEC (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cec/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Reserve has been met ... Car will sell today.", "likes": 5, "timestamp": 1478725586, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1276958, "authorName": "NCboatrx", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/ncboatrx/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Sold on 11/9/16 for $5,800 to NCboatrx", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478725665, "type": "bat-bid-reserve"}, {"id": 1276961, "authorName": "pblake123", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/pblake123/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "congrats buyer and seller ughhhh I wanted a green Citroen but I have 7 cars and no room", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478725713, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1276965, "authorName": "CitroenDS23", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/citroends23/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Well I almost bought it was just putting 6k in \noh well", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478725743, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1276974, "authorName": "CEC (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cec/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@CitroenDS23\nI was waiting for you to jump in and was disappointed when you did not ...", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478725948, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1276980, "authorName": "MotoLegends15", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/motolegends15/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Excellent buy! Congrats to seller & buyer!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478726025, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1276985, "authorName": "David_P", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/david_p/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Damn, my attention wanders off for a minute and look what happens.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1478726105, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1276995, "authorName": "CitroenDS23", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/citroends23/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@cec I had a phone call So i got done too late\n=(", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478726351, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1277169, "authorName": "scotty_g", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/scotty_g/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Wow, very well bought, congrats!", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1478733955, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 1279187, "authorName": "unclewill", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/unclewill/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Nice buy! I was tempted but I'm waiting for the right DS....", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1478878569, "type": "comment"}]