[{"id": 4503474, "authorName": "sethm", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/sethm/", "bidAmount": 1000, "content": "$1,000 bid placed by sethm", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1589305733, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 4503508, "authorName": "PWSchuh", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/pwschuh/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "VERY nice 245. Looks as though there may have been one or two misapplications of the Jack.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1589306057, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4503545, "authorName": "Bizurk", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/bizurk/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Plenty of room for an LS in that engine bay", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1589306376, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4503548, "authorName": "dj_walls2424", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/dj_walls2424/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Very nice color combo. The Grey cloth seats are very popular and hard to find. These 240\u2019s are skyrocketing in value lately.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1589306382, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4503573, "authorName": "dtcoppola", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/dtcoppola/", "bidAmount": 1500, "content": "$1,500 bid placed by dtcoppola", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1589306515, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 4503576, "authorName": "psychrunner (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/psychrunner/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "This 240 DL wagon is as depicted in the pictures. I tried to take as many pics as I could. Very clean underneath, and all electric works as demonstrated. The original owner reportedly kept the car in Florida for several years, which I presumed assisted with lack of exposure to the New England weather. Drives and runs very well.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1589306532, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4503592, "authorName": "Spotpea", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/spotpea/", "bidAmount": 1993, "content": "$1,993 bid placed by Spotpea", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1589306654, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 4503605, "authorName": "thebranman", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/thebranman/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Gorgeous Volvo...if this was a manual, oh boy. RIP wallet", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1589306733, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4503627, "authorName": "dtcoppola", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/dtcoppola/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@psychrunner Lovely car. There isn't a third row jump seat hiding under the cargo cover, is there?", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1589306851, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4503651, "authorName": "CMXCVI", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cmxcvi/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "This would look amazing next to my '93 240 sedan also in grey. The owner's manual looks like it's never been opened. If anyone has a manual for a '93 240 sedan, please let me know because I'm in the market.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1589306955, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4503749, "authorName": "volvoned", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvoned/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Nice looking 245. It looks like the alternator was replaced, still shiny. The aftermarket exhaust kit is due for replacement. Volvo used to offer lifetime warranty on their exhaust kits. It may be worth the extra money for the warranty. If you\u2019re thinking of this for a kid , this is a good choice. Has a driver\u2019s airbag and ABS. Plus heated seats and mirrors that are probably power adjustable.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1589307371, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4503751, "authorName": "psychrunner (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/psychrunner/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "No hiding third row seat.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1589307378, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4503774, "authorName": "psychrunner (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/psychrunner/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Yes, power adjusted mirrors and windows, and as demonstrated in the above video, all electric operates as it should.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1589307459, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4504576, "authorName": "BCMac", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/bcmac/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "A nice looking 245 in a seldom seen color, and with no clear coast issues! Check. No roof rack and no third seat mean no additional holes drilled into the body. Check. Well-preserved/sorted interior in the most durable color. Check. \n\nThe \"Volvo\" and \"240\" emblems look too high for factory placement. Perhaps the hatch was painted at some point? The car looks remarkably uncompromised for having lived in the salt belt. While there is a bit of surface corrosion underneath, it's not enough to worry about, provided the new owner details the engine compartment! The front sheet metal looks to be original, as the joints under the turn signals look undisturbed. Another plus. \n\nAs for the exhaust, there are a couple of ways to go: \n1) A 240 turbo rear muffler & larger diameter turbo axle and tail pipes works well, though you\u2019ll have to fabricate an adaptor leave to work with the resonator. \n2) Run the above with no front resonator.. this produces a drone on the highway that some find unpleasant.\n3) Install a larger 2\" diameter flow-optimized Simmons Exhaust from VP Auto. Made in Sweden, this well-made system has a nice burble at idle, does not drone, and is offers superior performance to the above solutions. Comes with a resonator, over axle pipe, muffler and tail pipe, plus all hardware. The over-axle pipe has the added benefit of not being crimped to clear the axle tube and sway bar, as is the stock under-axle pipe. I run this system on all three of our 240s.. the system works especially well with the VX3 cam and 531 head on my 87 245. \n\nI wouldn\u2019t bother with a stainless exhaust.. the muffler\u2019s sound deadening/baffling will wear out long before the structure, making for a loud system. Mufflers are not - and should not - be considered lifetime items. The same argument could be made for high-milage tires, lifetime coolant, etc. But I digress. \n\nThere are a couple of unique items on the 1993 240: \n\n1)Timing belt is of the round tooth type which I think was good for an 80K interval v. the square tooth\u2019s 50K\n2)Unique automatic shifter assembly and trim\n3)Factory R134a air conditioning with unique threads. The receiver drier, condenser, and presumably the evap core are therefore one-year only parts and hard to find. The specs on the threads escape me just now. \n\nThis will make a nice wagon for the new owner. GLWS!", "likes": 8, "timestamp": 1589310689, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4504665, "authorName": "Dan_Bleichman", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/dan_bleichman/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Beautiful car in amazing shape.\r\nI wish I had the room for it in my driveway.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1589310993, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4505400, "authorName": "PWSchuh", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/pwschuh/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Bizurk - There is even more room for an LS in the cargo compartment. Which is the only place I would put one.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1589314957, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4505625, "authorName": "ultimatt", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/ultimatt/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "\"Volvo \u2014 they're boxy but they're good.\"", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1589316151, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4506031, "authorName": "Draystock", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/draystock/", "bidAmount": 2200, "content": "$2,200 bid placed by Draystock", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1589318357, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 4506042, "authorName": "PDXBryan", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/pdxbryan/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "What a beauty! My first thought is \u201cwhat a great color\u201d then I realized that it\u2019s the same color as mine but in better shape and with no clear coat issues.\r\n\r\n@BCMac\r\nNice Overview!", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1589318386, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4506056, "authorName": "Draystock", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/draystock/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "It\u2019s probably rustier than I imagine but oh well, I bid anyways. ?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1589318421, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4506887, "authorName": "psychrunner (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/psychrunner/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Thanks BCMac for that excellent narrative of the 240DL and the 1993 MY in particular. I think some of the lack of significant corrosion likely due to at least some of its existence spent winters in Florida (based on Carfax). Draystock, you meant to say \"probably not as rusty as I imagine.\" Thanks for the bid.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1589323991, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4506987, "authorName": "Hubla", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/hubla/", "bidAmount": 2300, "content": "$2,300 bid placed by Hubla", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1589324655, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 4507311, "authorName": "JohnM", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/johnm/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Rear badges are definitely in the wrong position, color match on the hatch is just barely off, plastic molding back there has been resprayed a shade too dark, taillights are not the original Cibies. Nice car, but it has almost certainly been hit, no matter what the carfax says.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1589327288, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4507361, "authorName": "Nosey", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/nosey/", "bidAmount": 2400, "content": "$2,400 bid placed by Nosey", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1589328392, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 4507365, "authorName": "PDXBryan", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/pdxbryan/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@JohnM\r\nIf this has been hit, think about it like Robin William\u2019s character in \u2018The World According To Garp\u2018 after a plane crashes into the house he\u2019s looking at buying. \u201cI\u2019ll take it. It\u2019s been pre-disastered!\u201d", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1589328488, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4507453, "authorName": "psychrunner (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/psychrunner/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Hmm. I am not aware that it has been hit, and I really don't see any difference in color of the rear hatch upon inspection, though your eye may be better than mine. I did refresh the molding with black molding paint, and this may be what you see JohnM.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1589329841, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4508137, "authorName": "FunWithCars", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/funwithcars/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@PWSchuh @Bizurk\r\n\r\n302 Ford. Paul Newman\u2019s and David Letterman\u2019s fast but stealthy commuter cars of choice. Bizurk, the LS goes in your SAAB. That would be quite the project. If you want an OHV V8 a Ford is the natural for a Volvo. By the way, PWSchuh, I realize you were voting against an LS swap. Volvo wagons are, above all, practical so I agree with you. It would perfectly fine to haul an LS in back as long as you put down some cardboard or plywood.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1589358154, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4508145, "authorName": "FunWithCars", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/funwithcars/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@psychrunner\r\n\r\nNice Volvo wagon. Some questions.\r\n\r\nWhy are you selling so quickly? Did you buy it to flip?\r\n\r\nIs there a spare tire? A photo would be appreciated.\r\n\r\nWith a car this old a compression test would be a great thing to give some confidence to potential bidders. Especially since you\u2019ve only put 100 miles on it. Also possibly helpful would be a cold start video with the camera about a foot from the tailpipe and the engine being revved up and down.\r\n\r\n@BCMac You sound like you have experience and knowledge in these cars. Is 180k miles an engine its prime or getting up there?\r\n\r\n@psychrunner again. I see the Virginia safety inspection sticker. Was this car subject to a smog inspection when you bought it or has one been done while you\u2019ve owned it?\r\n\r\nThanks", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1589360282, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4508219, "authorName": "lxsteed", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/lxsteed/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "The Ford 5.0 looks most at home under the hood, but these days there are more \"off the shelf\" parts to put an LS in these. I did the trade a few years ago when I had my '92 wagon to see which swap would be easier with minimal fab work. Ultimately, I decided I probably wouldn't keep it long term regardless and scrapped the idea and sold the car.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1589370344, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4508241, "authorName": "rmomr2", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rmomr2/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Nice looking 245 GLWTA! @CMXCVI the online version is available for free through Volvo\u2019s website, printed copies for purchase here:\r\nhttp://www.volvotechinfo.com/index.cfm?event=item.view&pd=itemType", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1589371812, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4508367, "authorName": "CMXCVI", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cmxcvi/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@rmomr2 thank you for sharing this! I've been looking on eBay for months with no such luck.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1589374524, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4508376, "authorName": "psychrunner (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/psychrunner/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I am a perpetual collector of very nice European cars. I couldn't resist buying this car locally from a young lady who purchased as a one owner in July or August of 2019, and brought it to Virginia. She had the car inspected, as she used it as a daily driver. IUpon learning she was expecting her first child, she listed locally for sale. I purchased somewhat impulsively due to the condition, in November (didn't register until January). My significant other convinced me I have too many cars, including two e30's, an e39 540, and another 240DL wagon. Something has to go. Click on the \"here\" word above in description provided by BaT for the start up and driving video.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1589374643, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4508381, "authorName": "tweed_jacket", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/tweed_jacket/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "What a lovely automobile", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1589374759, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4509127, "authorName": "spuh", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/spuh/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@lxsteed, I'm in the same position as you were : LS or Windsor swap or leave the redblock. Would you mind sharing the fruits of your search? Not here perhaps, could we contact outside this auction? And BaT, what is the possibility of adding some kind of sidebar where we could discuss topics in more depth without cluttering up the auctions?", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1589387032, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4509168, "authorName": "Taminator", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/taminator/", "bidAmount": 2500, "content": "$2,500 bid placed by Taminator", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1589387617, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 4509217, "authorName": "lxsteed", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/lxsteed/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@spuh I'll have to see if I can dig up the excel sheet I made. I'm not sure I have it anymore. It pretty much boiled down to availability of off the shelf parts. I don't have the fabrication tools or welder to do things myself (as much as I wish I did). So I went on the hunt for companies that make the parts. Converse no longer makes kits, and finding those parts on the used market is extremely rare. There is a company that makes LS mounts, so my attention leaned that way. While learning the LS would have been fun, I'm a fox mustang guy, and really preferred that route. My wagon was also an auto, and if I was going to swap, it was going to be a 5 speed, so there were additional costs there.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1589388200, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4509331, "authorName": "AdventureGumby", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/adventuregumby/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Personally I find it totally annoying how often some BaT users instantly bring up engine-swapping in regards to certain cars. (If this were my site, the term \"LS Swap\" would be automatically deleted from any comments.) If somebody wants to swap an engine after they buy a car, that's fine (even if I think it's silly.) But talking about it here - unless the car for sale has no engine in it - is totally off-topic IMHO. (After all, there are plenty of other forums perfectly designed for such conversations.) \r\n\r\nIt just seems to me that we should focus on what's actually for sale here and its merits as it stands. Certainly 99% of buyers / owners will not be swapping the engine out, so I would prefer that these comment sections not be hijacked. Those are my two cents, and I'm sure they will fall on certain deaf ears, if not met with some hostility.", "likes": 18, "timestamp": 1589389622, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4509343, "authorName": "brandonp", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/brandonp/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Hi seller, is it possible the entire car has been painted? It\u2019s missing the black tape that is placed on top of the doors at the base of the windows.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1589389845, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4509423, "authorName": "psychrunner (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/psychrunner/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Hi Brandon. I noticed that also. I bought a kit to replace it for my other 240DL because it typically cracks and fades. I think this may have been removed. I am not aware of a repaint.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1589390796, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4509582, "authorName": "Rooty245", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rooty245/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@brandonp and @JohnM my 1992 245 base does not have the black decal along the upper belt line below the windows (my 1984 245 turbo did) and my rear tailgate on the 1992 has the factory badges in the same location as this car. Mine is the same color but slightly faded from Arizona sun. Nice car. Suspension improvements are cheaper than adding horsepower : ) I am running a full IPD suspension with adjustable Koni's and boxed front control arms on 225/50-16's. Most fun you can have with a rear wheel drive and a modest 114HP . Good luck with the sale @psychrunner", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1589392450, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4510231, "authorName": "FunWithCars", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/funwithcars/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Thanks for the answers, @psychrunner. I apologize for missing the video link in the writeup.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1589396251, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4510893, "authorName": "FunWithCars", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/funwithcars/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@psychrunner\r\n\r\nI watched all four of your videos. There isn\u2019t any real closeup of the exhaust. The first \u201chere\u201d linked video where the car drives by on the street clearly shows something, steam or smoke, coming out the tail pipe. What is your description of the engine condition? Has the oil level dropped at all in your 100 miles?", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1589398335, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4511310, "authorName": "volvoned", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvoned/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "FunwithCars: Having worked on Volvos for decades, I seriously doubt what you\u2019re seeing is oil smoke. The by-product of the cat.converter is water. Most likely moisture coming from a not fully warmed up car or low ambient temperature. Once the converter is warmed up, it will consume any oil. I\u2019ve seen turbocharged cars that don\u2019t smoke when warmed up, but when cold started the exhaust gushes blue smoke. These engines typically don\u2019t burn oil excessively, but some oil consumption is normal.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1589400549, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4512474, "authorName": "psychrunner (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/psychrunner/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I know there is no fluid leaking at all. I also know that when standing behind the with my leg very close to the exhaust, I felt a dampness but no residue whatsoever on my leg, so I assume what volvoned is describing is applicable to this car. I have not filled with oil, and I know the previous owner drove regularly on a 26 mile commute round trip with no oil consumption. Hope this helps.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1589406949, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4512804, "authorName": "FunInTheSun", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/funinthesun/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "shaggin' wagon with that tint...had one in high school and the suspension held up even with all I put it through. So reliable these wagons. GLWTA!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1589412222, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4512840, "authorName": "TomerBrian", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/tomerbrian/", "bidAmount": 2600, "content": "$2,600 bid placed by TomerBrian", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1589412699, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 4512965, "authorName": "psychrunner (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/psychrunner/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I just submitted a few pics of the spare tire well. You'd think with over 300 hundred pictures submitted initially, I would have included those. Also, I started the car and ran it for a few minutes to check what Volvoned was commenting on regarding the moisture from tailpipe. You seem to be right on with the assessment. Upon cold start seemed to spritz out fine water mist. After running for a few minutes, including a very short drive, dissipated to only very slight moisture. Certainly no indication of \"burning oil\" or related smoke.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1589415282, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4512974, "authorName": "JohnM", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/johnm/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Rooty245:\r\n\r\nI'm not talking about tape under the windows. In '92 you either got that 3M tape or you didn't, depending on the color of the car. I wouldn't expect to see it on a car of this color. As I said in my first post, I'm talking about MOLDING. Look at pictures 123, 124, 139 and 141 versus 143, 144 and 145. Clearly the rear-most moldings have been refinished with a rattle can, compared to what they SHOULD look like farther forward on the car. \r\n\r\nI was trying to be polite, but this is exactly why I don't post much any more. So many people posting like they're experts, correcting those who actually are. I was trying to be polite earlier, as I have absolutely no dog in this fight....BUT.....\r\n\r\nThe color mismatch between the rear hatch and the rest of the car is clearly visible in pictures 2 through 5. Pictures 72, 86 and 87 are also particularly illuminating. If you can't see that then I can't help you. \r\n\r\nThere is ZERO chance the rear hatch badges are in the same place as they were when they left the factory. And I mean ZERO. Less than zero. They're several inches too high and at least an inch too far inwards. If you think they match the placement on your '92 well then either you're not looking closely enough or your '92 is wrong as well.\r\n\r\nThere's obvious evidence of making tape in 113, 114 and 118, same for 139, 150, 152, 155 and 157. Again, there is ZERO chance the car left the factory looking like that. And I mean ZERO.\r\n\r\nYou can see where they taped it off and cut it in, in picture 152 (repaired, back by the rear wheels) vs. 153 and 154 (factory finish, closer to the front of the car). 156 is factory (again, at the front of the car), 155 and 157 are repaired (again, at the rear of the car).\r\n\r\nThis car has obviously.....and I mean OBVIOUSLY.....been hit. Maybe that doesn't matter, maybe it runs and drives perfectly--and I hope it does and I hope both seller and buyer are happy with the outcome--but the pictures are perfectly clear to those of us who know what we're looking at.", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1589415471, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4513024, "authorName": "psychrunner (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/psychrunner/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "JohnM,\r\nI used SEM Trim Paint to blacken rear bumper trim. As the seller, I find your post to be more than a concern. I just inspected the car again visually, and cannot not see a difference in paint tone/color between the hatch and fender. The car is as pictured and in very nice condition. I would appreciate that if you have questions about the condition, you use the Contact Seller button, rather than tear down what is obviously a very nice 240 DL wagon. @Rooty245, thanks for your knowledgeable comments regarding the badge placement and lack of belt trim. Interesting,", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1589416295, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4513091, "authorName": "psychrunner (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/psychrunner/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@JohnM,\r\nI see what you are saying about the pics referenced. If one looks at 29 and 30, and other pics the difference in paint, is not evident. I think what you see is lighting/shading, but I doubt I will convince you of that. As I mentioned, I did use SEM trim paint to freshen faded trim, and I did tape areas to do so. The tape lines are mine. There is not evidence the car has been \"hit,\" but again I doubt any of this will convince you of such.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1589417551, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4513215, "authorName": "FunWithCars", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/funwithcars/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@psychrunner\r\n@volvoned\r\n\r\nThanks for addressing the engine health questions. The video I referenced looked to me more like steam than anything else but buying old cars at long distance doesn\u2019t mix well with just automatically assuming the best case scenario for everything. I wanted to hear some assurance from the seller which I did. Thanks psychrunner. Actually, that\u2019s why an honest compression test is worth a thousand words but that doesn\u2019t seem to be in the cards.\r\n\r\nModern tech engines often go over 200k miles with adequate maintenance. This Volvo engine Isn\u2019t really in that modern tech category, to me. 180k was high for back then. But good for this engine and for Volvo if it\u2019s still strong and healthy. We\u2019ll see how the auction goes. If the price stays reasonable enough to allow leeway for a sooner or later engine rebuild. The car certainly seems nice enough to justify an engine rebuild.\r\n\r\nI\u2019m staying out of the hit/not hit, repaint/no repaint, debate based on the seller\u2019s assurance that there are no seeming issues. Again psychrunner, it would be great to have better underneath photos with the car raised up.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1589419508, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4513359, "authorName": "rmomr2", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rmomr2/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "In regards to engine longevity, there\u2019s an example of a million mile 240 on YouTube that has never had anything other than the valve cover opened up. Look it up, interesting story. These engines can see 500k with abuse, and if properly maintained 1 million miles without ANY major rebuild on the motor is more than achievable. Irv Gordon did it with his P1800 which had a similar build quality/materials and architecture of the B230f motor found on this. While I agree there is evidence of paintwork, that is not by any means an indication of collision damage. All stickers on the inside of doors are present, and IMO it shows the care taken by the previous owner to keep up on the appearance. After all this is a 27 year old vehicle, and paint among other things does age especially if used as a daily driver. The missing vinyl was the indication to me of paintwork as other 240\u2019s sold on here with this color had it. The vinyl is readily available if the future buyer is concerned. 240\u2019s in this condition, especially in wagon form, are becoming rarer and rarer to find. Driver quality paintwork that someone invested in indicates how cherished and maintained this example is.", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1589423095, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4513411, "authorName": "rmomr2", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rmomr2/", "bidAmount": 3000, "content": "$3,000 bid placed by rmomr2", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1589424477, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 4513414, "authorName": "Pstackhouse", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/pstackhouse/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Hey @BCMac I enjoyed your comments. Please send me your contact info about cams, etc. pstackhouse@toad.net", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1589424535, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4513642, "authorName": "BCMac", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/bcmac/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@FunWithCars \n\nRE Engine condition at 185k miles: Provided that the prior owners of the car kept up with regular engine oil changes, and to a slightly lessor extent, coolant changes (2-3 years), then the indicated 185K miles is not a concern for this car's B230F engine, for it is only now reaching its mid life. Were this a turbocharged engine, the prior statement would not be true. \n\nThe B230 It is derived from the 5-main bearing mid 1960's B18 engine. All variants since then including the B20 B30, the OHV B21, B32, B230, and B234 have been overbuilt and under stressed. That said, There are three main generations of the B230: \n\n1st) 85-mid 87 Low friction design with smaller 55mm main bearings and valve springs. Long oil service intervals caught up in the form of worn bearings. Some engines experience broken valve springs. My 1987 245\u2019s low friction engine went to 388K before I rebuilt it - but then again I keep up on maintenance. That engine -and the car- now has 561k miles and runs beautifully. \n\n2nd) mid 87-92 Larger main bearings, more robust intergraded thrust bearings, reinforced block. Also larger connecting rods \n\n3rd) 93-98 Introduction of oil squirters for piston cooling on turbo models, some NA engines. This helped greatly with alleviation of piston slap, a fairly common B230 behavior in an example with higher miles started from stone cold. A B230 with piston slap can run 100K miles or more with this condition. \n\nThere are far more model variants - and way more details - of the B230 than just the 9.8:1 low compression B230F in this car. Basic maintenance on these includes oil service, periodic valve adjustment and throttle body cleaning, coolant service (Iron block, Aluminum head), breather service, timing belt, and ignition items. \n\nWhile not common, some B230s develop external head gasket leaks at the number one and two cylinders on the exhaust side. An overheating event can internally breach the head gasket as well. If this happens the head will have to be removed for surfacing - great time freshen the valves as well. Once this is done, the engine will be good for another 200k. \n\n@Pstackhouse I\u2019ll be in touch. \n\nThis car\u2019s dark grey metallic (214) would have come with the door top vinyl striping. I think only black (019) came without the vinyl from the factory. I\u2019d love to use my paint depth gauge on this car. Depending on the execution, a respray could be a plus. This one looks to be pretty decent, though an in person inspection would probably temper one\u2019s expectations.", "likes": 6, "timestamp": 1589432350, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4513972, "authorName": "lxsteed", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/lxsteed/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@AdventureGumby If the comments section is policed to just focus on what\u2019s actually for sale and its merits as it stands, I think we are all in trouble. :)", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1589460529, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4514061, "authorName": "CMXCVI", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cmxcvi/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@BCMac do you have a book I can buy? Wow! I'm very new to the 240 community but I'm loving it very much. Comments like yours help me understand my car a little more. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us all.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1589462009, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4514138, "authorName": "KP3RTCP", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/kp3rtcp/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "i am in Virginia and have a good set of four Volvo \"Draco\" wheels from our 740 Turbo wagon if the buyer is interested. They were briefly on a Volvo 240 wagon and still have tires mounted and sized for that application.", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1589463347, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4514249, "authorName": "volvoned", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvoned/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "FunWithCars: if you ever get the cylinder head off of a red motor, you\u2019ll see that each piston and cylinder bore are stamped with a letter ( A thru G ) There are seven sizes for standard pistons. Pretty precise for a factory built engine.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1589464936, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4516889, "authorName": "FunWithCars", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/funwithcars/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@BAT\n\nThe seller, @psychrunner, said yesterday that he submitted more photos to you. How about posting them?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1589485230, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4516949, "authorName": "bringatrailer", "authorUrl": "", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@FunWithCars The additional photos have been added to the gallery.\r\n-BaT", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1589485472, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4517042, "authorName": "FunWithCars", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/funwithcars/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Thanks @BAT, @psychrunner.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1589485965, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4517976, "authorName": "Draystock", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/draystock/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "What do you all think of the corrosion on the undercarriage? We don\u2019t salt our roads where I live and not much snow. Last time I was under my old 240, it did not have the corrosion that this wagon shows.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1589491200, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4518749, "authorName": "FunWithCars", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/funwithcars/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@KP3RTCP\r\n\r\nThanks for mentioning your wheels. If I bid and win I would definitely be interested. I\u2019ll try to remember to post at you with contact info after the auction....if I win. \r\n\r\nAn example of why BAT is so good.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1589500470, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4519513, "authorName": "spuh", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/spuh/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@AdventureGrumpy, regarding your annoyance with \"LS swap\" suggestions, I too have my pet peeve. Mine is with the \"humour\" with which some commenters feel compelled to pepper this site. I don't mind something original ( or funny) but it's usually the same old tired slapstick that shows up, often the same \"joke\" several times during the same auction. But I find it worthwhile to plow through them for all the insight and years of hard won knowledge freely shared with all the rest of us. I have never seen anything close to this amount of wisdom on such a vastly different array of vehicles in one location. Please, BaT, let this fountain of knowledge continue to spout.\nIn the case at hand here, I'd say the discussion about a V8 swap is entirely germane. Volvo (I'm told by those in the know on this very site) switched to MacPherson struts for the 200 series in order to make room for a V12. So a V8 Volvo makes sense in that the swapper is merely finishing Volvo's job. Volvo (over)engineered this era of their cars, so doubling the torque on hand won't immediately overwhelm the brakes, suspension or monocoque. (Rear end, maybe not so) So, swapping a V8 into a 240 is not an outrageous travesty, especially a 240 with an automatic and in \"driver\" condition. Apparently I'm not the only one here to have considered doing such a swap.", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1589518149, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4519623, "authorName": "FunWithCars", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/funwithcars/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@spuh\r\n\r\nEvery single old Ranchero listing, multiple people have to mention Goldfinger and Oddjob. And of course, every station wagon somebody has to say Shaggin Wagon. Such as this listing, without naming names. And similar for others, certainly any car that was in a movie, etc.\r\n\r\nHey commentators, it was funny maybe the first thousand times or so but after awhile it gets old.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1589523432, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4519639, "authorName": "FunWithCars", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/funwithcars/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Draystock\r\n\r\nThis car spent most of its life in Connecticut. Road salt. I suggested to the seller that he get some better underneath photos, like on a lift, but he didn\u2019t respond. Maybe he\u2019ll do it over the weekend. \r\n\r\nActually, that corrosion issue is the thing that makes me the most cautious about this car. There is at least surface corrosion underneath and the engine compartment is certainly weathered. Yet the exterior is very shiny and immaculate for a 27 year old northeast car with 180k miles. And there are some experienced Volvo people commenting that things aren\u2019t quite correct, as in stock, about the exterior. There\u2019s nothing wrong with a paint job, if this car has indeed been repainted, but the big questions is what the new paint may or may not be hiding.\r\n\r\nI don\u2019t have any proof of anything or even a conclusion here. These are just things I\u2019m thinking about before I bid. I love this generation of Volvo wagon and this one looks nice in photos from 2000+ miles away.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1589524278, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4519677, "authorName": "FunWithCars", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/funwithcars/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@volvoned @BCMac @rmomr2\r\n\r\nThank all of you for your informed comments on the Volvo engines. \r\n\r\nvolvoned, that\u2019s Selective Fit. Those letter codes. Manufacturers hate having to do that and avoid it like the plague. Complexity, time, money. The big three things they try to avoid. But there is a difference in durability between manufacturers. It isn\u2019t just any engine with regularly changed oil that will go that long. Sometimes a manufacturer will go that extra mile and this appears to be one of things Volvo did to get their extra durability in the past.\r\n\r\nToyota built their entire business on that. Great resale value resulting from great durability. Toyotas rarely win short term comparison tests but they hold up. A recent example on their modern engines. Nearly every company has gone to direct fuel injection because it has many real advantages. But it also has several real disadvantages. The proper way is port injection AND direct injection in combination. But that requires the expensive direct equipment AND the port injection parts. Most companies are just dumping the port FI to save money and making do with DI only. But the king of reliability, Toyota, is spending the extra money. They\u2019re more reliable for a reason and this is a perfect example. Ford has also stepped up on both their 2018+ Coyote V8s and their recent Ecoboost 3.5 V6s, at least. Maybe some of their other engines too. I also heard that Audi recently used a dual system but I don\u2019t know which engine.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1589529624, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4519679, "authorName": "FunWithCars", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/funwithcars/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@spuh\r\n\r\nHave you considered a modern 4 cylinder swap? That\u2019s what I\u2019m kind of starting to think about. Aluminum blocks, 4 valve heads, variable cam timing, hydraulic valve clearance control, serpentine belts, factory reliable turbocharging maybe. High precision CNC machining, modern materials, modern everything. Except the engine swap concept is as old school as it comes. These cars don\u2019t really need V8s. They don\u2019t need to be all ate up with engine. But of course they can be. Choices. None, including stock, are really bad. 200 Volvos are great cars in many ways.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1589530542, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4520284, "authorName": "volvoned", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvoned/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "FinWithCars: Direct Injection systems aren\u2019t cheap and there engineering and mapping were manufacturers only option to meet Federal fuel economy and emissions regs. It seems that 4 cylinder, turbo charged, DI engines were the way most companies are headed if not already there. I was retiring just as Volvo was introducing that system but I\u2019m familiar with the mechanical systems that have been around for years. The dual combined systems I\u2019m not schooled on. Hopefully, the DI systems will be as reliable as the port injection has been.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1589552169, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4520330, "authorName": "volvoned", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvoned/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "The factory did a good job on undercoating the later 240s Whether this car has been painted or had a tailgate repaired/replaced probably won\u2019t matter if you have been looking for a nice one to own. There aren\u2019t very many of these in as nice condition, and you may never get one if you want a flawless car. I\u2019m sure there may be one out there but you\u2019ll have to pay huge money for it. And then, will you want to drive it?", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1589552980, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4520377, "authorName": "volvoned", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvoned/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Slug: the only V-8 swap that made sense to me on the 240s was the \r\n6 cylinder Diesel cars. They were terribly slow, and if it was an automatic, forget trying to merge into highway traffic. The early D. Cars were emissions exempt in most states and had a larger radiator. You could shoehorn the turbo version from the 700 series in with some inner fender mods.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1589553608, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4520819, "authorName": "psychrunner (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/psychrunner/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@FunWithCars\r\nI am working on getting pics on a lift. I don't own one, and the two mechanics I used indicated their lifts are unavailable. It's not as easy as you might think to pull in a shop and ask them to lift it, but I hope to be able to do so by Monday. I really don't see a significant amount of corrosion but hopefully having those lift pics will tell. Please bear with me. I do know the car spent some of its earlier years in Florida, and mileage in earlier years appears higher as compared to recent years. Keep in mind also, the car averaged only about 7k miles a year.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1589559483, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4520847, "authorName": "psychrunner (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/psychrunner/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Good news. I have access to the lift, Pics scheduled at 4:00 P.M. EST.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1589559851, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4522471, "authorName": "FunWithCars", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/funwithcars/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Thanks @psychrunner", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1589570553, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4522664, "authorName": "FunWithCars", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/funwithcars/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@volvoned\r\n\r\nBriefly, there are two big problems with gasoline direct injection. Thick oil film deposits build up and carbonize on the back of intake valve. Also, gas wash of the cylinder walls under cold start conditions combined with resulting oil dilution. A few years ago Honda was actually in the auto news headlines because their new Civic GDI engine was filling the crankcase with gasoline in colder climates.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1589571519, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4522686, "authorName": "FunWithCars", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/funwithcars/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@volvoned\r\n\r\nAnd both of those problems are cured by the addition of port injection. There are lots of internet written articles and youtube videos on this subject.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1589571654, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4524226, "authorName": "psychrunner (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/psychrunner/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Numerous pictures of undercarriage have been submitted. I think viewers will be pleasantly surprised at how clean it is. Hopefully they will be posted soon.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1589579793, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4524247, "authorName": "FunWithCars", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/funwithcars/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Great work, @psychrunner. I personally volunteer to nag @BAT to get them posted promptly this time.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1589579879, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4524288, "authorName": "bringatrailer", "authorUrl": "", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Additional photos of the underbody have been added to the gallery.\r\n-BaT", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1589580060, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4524295, "authorName": "FunWithCars", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/funwithcars/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Thumbs up, @BAT.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1589580094, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4524413, "authorName": "FunWithCars", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/funwithcars/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@psychrunner. You\u2019re correct. It looks solid, in my opinion.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1589581527, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4524457, "authorName": "FunWithCars", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/funwithcars/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@psychrunner.\r\n\r\nIf this has been answered already I apologize. How does the AC work? Does it \u201cblow cold\u201d as most every used car ad always says?\r\n\r\nI\u2019m assuming it\u2019s an R12 refrigerant system? Or are there any tags or other info showing it\u2019s been converted to R134?", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1589582526, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4524485, "authorName": "volvoned", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvoned/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "FunWithCars: the oil/ fuel contamination is totally believable. When the first LH 2.4 240 came out. I saw 2 different cars that had broken thermostats that filled the sumps with gasoline because the fuel system adapted to run very rich. I reported it to our field rep. and he called me crazy. I made him drive over to inspect it. I made my point. The customer complaint was that it made a clatter noise and lots of smoke on turns. The mixture was being sucked into the crankcase vent system.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1589583217, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4524519, "authorName": "psychrunner (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/psychrunner/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@FunWithCars It was warm here in Virginia today, and yes A/C actually blows cool. I owned a 1988 240 DL wagon new, and I don\u2019t recall that blowing particularly cold either. Oh the pictures of undercarriage I see are posted. Again, I think viewers will be surprised with how clean it is.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1589583771, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4524570, "authorName": "FunWithCars", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/funwithcars/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Thanks @psychrunner. As long as it\u2019s cool that likely means there\u2019s no major leak or a bad compressor. I\u2019m in blazing hot Tucson and I\u2019ll likely have it gone through and tweaked no matter what.\n\nThe European car companies were very reluctant about auto AC initially. They were still crude add ons long after everyone else had them from the factory.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1589584711, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4524596, "authorName": "psychrunner (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/psychrunner/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Yes, Took a couple minutes to get to the cool zone, but once it did it blew consistently for the 15 minutes that I was driving it to the shop for the pictures and back.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1589584951, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4524702, "authorName": "rmomr2", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rmomr2/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "1991-1993 had a different style AC system than previous models, with 1993 being the unicorn having some model year specific AC parts and R134 from the factory. From my understanding, it performs considerably better than previous model years, and I\u2019m sure the tinted windows on this example helps with the amount of glass on the 245. 1993 also had the hood insulation pad which I am not aware was available on previous model years. Interesting how Volvo continued to invest R&D into a model that was already antiquated compared to its competition and knowing that 1993 would be the final year. I\u2019d throw an IPD stainless steel exhaust system on this if I win, reasonably priced and the only area of corrosion on this beauty.", "likes": 5, "timestamp": 1589587009, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4524786, "authorName": "FunWithCars", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/funwithcars/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@rmomr2\r\n\r\nThanks for the good AC info.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1589589629, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4525022, "authorName": "rmomr2", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rmomr2/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@FunWithCars my parents 1985 245 automatic and my 1990 245 5-speed were both mediocre after the R134 conversion. My current 1992 244 5-speed works really well with the R134 conversion, although the sedans have less of an area to work with and I\u2019ve been advised to keep it on recirculating for best performance which may seem obvious. With 114 horsepower when new you\u2019ll definitely feel a power difference when the AC is on, but as I now live in NC now it\u2019s almost a must if I want to use the car in the summer. Although I\u2019m sure any older AC will require a recharge every coupe of years due to seals and components aging, 1993 is a sought after year for AC parts swaps to many owners of older models that want a high functioning AC. This year was actually designed to run on R134.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1589596088, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4525074, "authorName": "FunWithCars", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/funwithcars/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@rmomr2\r\n\r\nAgain! Just as good or better as your previous post. . Especially the performance review part. From what I\u2019ve gathered in some sporadic reading every R134 conversion is not equivalent. What\u2019s your opinion on that? Of course, the best way to run R134 is in a system specifically designed for it.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1589597828, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4525124, "authorName": "rmomr2", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rmomr2/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@FunWithCars I\u2019ve never experienced a new or fully functioning R12 system in a 240 that I can personally remember as seller @psychrunner has, perhaps @volvoned or the seller would give a better answer to that question!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1589599450, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4525566, "authorName": "psychrunner (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/psychrunner/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I wanted to provide a summary of the 240 DL wagon. Keep in mind, this is an all original with no modifications, including original radio. Interior is in excellent condition. Paint has some blemishes as seen in pictures, but without fading and shines very well as demonstrated in pictures. I am not aware of any repaint or accidents, and The Carfax shows none. AC is operable and blows cool, all electric including windows and mirrors work as they should. Pictures of undercarriage demonstrate minimal corrosion. Tires appear to be with 80 to 90 % tread. No leaking whatsoever on asphalt/concrete where car is parked. A very solid and hard to find in this condition and color combination DL wagon. Hope this summary helps.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1589635251, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4525678, "authorName": "volvoned", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvoned/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "This is a very nice 245. The only upgrade I\u2019d make is a modern radio head. (I must have some cassettes somewhere). To do that, the glovebox will need to be removed because there is/was an anti theft bracket on the right side of the radio chassis. It\u2019s possible that this has been out at some time so try to remove it by the 2 screws on the left side first. Previously, there was a speaker grill in the center of the dash which allowed access.", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1589638168, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4525786, "authorName": "volvoned", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvoned/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Rmomr2: I\u2019ve commented on R134conversions before. The major issue is that 134 doesn\u2019t condense as well as 12. An additional fan will improve their operation to be as good. The later cars had high pressure switches to automatically run the fan. On those cars with fans in front of the condenser, there is a Black colored relay, on the 240 it\u2019s just behind the battery on the inner fender. This is a high failure component and the fan operation should be checked and also make sure the fan blades turn freely. ( my lawyer said to make sure the engine/ac is not working when you do that) . The high pressure switch on the 240 is at the end of an elbow on the ac pipe attached to the passengers side frame rail, below the alternator. The high side is the smaller of the 2 pipes. Additionally, the fan clutch, attached to the plastic fan can gradually lose its ability to lock up. This will have an obvious affect. Test that by running the engine at about 2000rpm . On a hot day with the ac on , after about a minute it will make a loud roaring sound, and the air flow will increase significantly. I do this with the hood open and turning the throttle bobbin. Make sure the cable stays in place. Adding a pressure switch may be expensive and complicated, having a dash mounted switch to run the auxiliary fan is probably the best solution. Sorry if this is long winded", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1589640730, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4525800, "authorName": "volvoned", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvoned/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Re the ac system. This car was equipped with an auxiliary fan and a high pressure switch to turn it on. That\u2019s the main reason that 134 conversions don\u2019t work as well as 12 because it doesn\u2019t condense well at low speeds. The 91-93 cars all had this feature regardless of the Freon used. As I\u2019ve previously mentioned, the heater valve on the pre 93 cars can be a problem as well. 93 had a simpler gate valve", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1589641114, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4525893, "authorName": "MaineMercedes", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/mainemercedes/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "If you take out the radio with a working cassette player, I want it! I put a modern radio in my son's 240 (1995) and was delighted to find that when disconnected and reconnected it received the original code and worked (the radio) but the cassette player was done for. I have a box of cassettes I like to listen to in the car. Send me the old one! Thx, D Day in Maine", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1589642834, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4525995, "authorName": "fredvolvo67", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/fredvolvo67/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Just an observation. Having owned numerous Volvo's over the years, (18, including 5 x 240 wagons), I have noticed that whenever one is for sale on BaT or elsewhere, it is under tired. The standard tire from the factory for 240 wagons 1978 through 1993 was a 185/80R-14 with reinforced sidewalls having an overall diameter of 25.7inches. Yet, most used Volvo 240 wagons for sale have tires replaced with size 185/70R-14 with soft sidewalls having an overall diameter of 24.2 inches. This was the standard tire for the 240 sedan, (I'm sure cheaper and more readily available). Odometer/speedometer error (-5.7% 64mph iso 60mph). I'm sure that safety and handling of the wagon was compromised, and I'm sure that Volvo installed tires with reinforced sidewalls taking for granted that people would naturally overload their wagons.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1589644627, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4526248, "authorName": "rmomr2", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rmomr2/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@fredvolvo67 the owners manual and door placard state 185R14 for the wagons, 185/80R14 with reinforced sidewalls is an obsolete size and no longer available for passenger car applications to the best of my knowledge hence why most on BaT are fitted with the 70R14.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1589650069, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4526376, "authorName": "fredvolvo67", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/fredvolvo67/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@rmomr2 The tire size 185/80R-14 is still available from Michelin, Vredestein, Yokohama and probably others. A good replacement for the 185R14 tire maintaining the approximate same or better load index and overall diameter would be a 195/75R14 or a 205/70R14.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1589653027, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4526445, "authorName": "PDXBryan", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/pdxbryan/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "One of my favorite aspects of Volvo 240 ownership is the community. Look at this long string of comments and the treasure trove of valuable info contained therein! There\u2019s something about the engineering and heart built into these things that engenders loyalty.\n\nHaving said that, as much as I love the durability of the red block, the chassis (especially with a few minimal improvements) just begs for more power. Along with that I, for one, crave better fuel economy. That\u2019s why I fell in love with the TDI swapped 240 wagon I got to drive a while back. Granted, the engine was not a stock TDI but, damn, what a great combo! Loads of power, great handling and fantastic economy. Too bad VW hadn\u2019t invented the TDI when Volvo sourced that lame old D24 from them for their diesel 240.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1589654932, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4526537, "authorName": "FunWithCars", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/funwithcars/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@volvoned or anyone else who was interested in our sidebar discussion about Gasoline Direct Injection (GDI)\n\nHere\u2019s a quick explainer from Car And Driver Magazine\u2019s longtime tech editor Don Sherman. He discusses the benefits of combining port injection with direct injection.\n\nNote: A Ford engineer comments on how they never had problems with intake valve deposits on their DI-only engines. I think there are many Ford owners who would dispute that statement.\n\nhttps://www.caranddriver.com/news/a15342328/explained-why-some-engines-have-both-port-and-direct-injection/", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1589657316, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4526710, "authorName": "sportscar311", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/sportscar311/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Very nice looking 245. These cars are great for a student driver or a surfer. Super easy to drive in town and see out of; they shrug off potholes and minor bumper impacts. On tires, my son damaged one of the 185/70/14 Pirelli P4 that came on our used 1993 245 \"Classic.\" I bought four 195/70/14 Michelin Defenders and the difference in handling was phenomenal. Like many Michelin tires the sidewalls are relatively stiff, which is perfect on the 245. (205 would look like balloons on stock width wheels.) Our car also has the IPD lowering springs and bars and I added the IPD adjustable panhard rod, which is crucial to keep a lowered Volvo tracking straight down the road. Supposedly IPD's VX Street Performance Cam can be installed in these late model cars with LH-Jetronic injection, adding 20 HP without throwing any codes. Good luck with the sale!", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1589662569, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 4527100, "authorName": "volvoned", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/volvoned/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "FunWithCars: thanks for the link. After decades of subscribing, I\u2019ve let all of my car mags lapse. Nothing earth shattering but the engineers are on the job. My biggest surprise was that Toyota is letting Subaru build their engines. I\u2019m aware that Toyota owns a big chunk of Subaru. I worked in a shop that was Volvo And Subaru. I don\u2019t think I\u2019ve ever seen so many engines out of cars ever. If Volvo has that reliability I would have worked on a different line. All w