[{"id": 12889634, "authorName": "Jaggy99 (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jaggy99/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "A warm welcome to everyone to this auction of a 1987 Buick Regal T-Type 3.8L turbo with only 47,000km (29,000 miles). Everyone who has sat in this car remarks that it still has the new car smell.\r\n\r\nThe late owner of this vehicle passed away suddenly a few months ago and we must say goodbye to this car that has been kept in meticulous condition. I\u2019m the son-in-law and I\u2019ll be here all week to answer your questions to the best of my ability.", "likes": 6, "timestamp": 1699220592, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12889755, "authorName": "carfan1978", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/carfan1978/", "bidAmount": 1987, "content": "$1,987 bid placed by carfan1978", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1699221980, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 12889876, "authorName": "1434gt", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/1434gt/", "bidAmount": 2100, "content": "$2,100 bid placed by 1434gt", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1699223602, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 12889946, "authorName": "TABuickMike", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/tabuickmike/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Can you provide pictures of the areas where clear coat is peeling?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1699224264, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12889976, "authorName": "carfan1978", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/carfan1978/", "bidAmount": 2200, "content": "$2,200 bid placed by carfan1978", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1699224928, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 12889998, "authorName": "Linicklo", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/linicklo/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "For us American people, what is all involved paperwork wise to get this into the states? And is there hoops you have to jump thru to obtain a title of a car that came from out of country?", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1699225340, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12890035, "authorName": "Jaggy99 (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jaggy99/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Linicklo Because the car is more than 25 years old, the requirements are not that difficult. I will provide a standard bill-of-sale and proof of Canadian vehicle registration. Your best bet is to contact a customs brokerage who will handle all the paperwork on your behalf. I can recommend BorderBuddy 1-866-615-1388, but there are dozens more out there. \r\n\r\nFor transport, I can recommend TFX International 1-416-243-8531 or Reliable Carriers 1-800-521-6393. For a smaller one-person transport guy I can recommend Kevin 1-780-887-0518.\r\n\r\nThere are people importing vehicles across the border in both directions every day, so I wouldn't let that stop you if you are interested in this Buick, but do your due-diligence before the auction ends next Sunday.", "likes": 8, "timestamp": 1699225912, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12890114, "authorName": "Jflaherty", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jflaherty/", "bidAmount": 10000, "content": "$10,000 bid placed by Jflaherty", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1699226903, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 12890282, "authorName": "Jaggy99 (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jaggy99/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "We had this vehicle appraised recently and here is what the appraiser said about the car:\r\n\r\n\"This Regal T-Type is a true gem that has been lovingly cared for and can only be truly appreciated when seen up close. This vehicle sports the beautiful color of gray metallic. This car can be appreciated from every angle, even from underneath the car. There is no sign of any scratches or scrapes showing on this vehicle. This is a very well maintained vehicle. \r\n\r\nUnderneath the hood lies the numbers matching original 6-cyl. 3.8L 231cid/245hp turbo SFI with intercooler engine that is well detailed. This includes the wiring, clamps, hoses, and necessary components. Mated to the engine is a 200-4r 4-speed overdrive transmission. The 3.42:1 rear gear ratio is a limited slip semi floating rear axles. The undercarriage is tidy and completely solid as expected. Motor is completely original and is 100% correct including the air cleaner all the way down to the oil pan assembly. Minor mod was the replacement of the factory computer chip with a performance tuned version. \r\n Engine compartment is clean and tidy with no major signs of leaks or rust to any of the under carriage that can be seen.\r\n\r\n\u2022 Original brake shoes/pads factory power disc / drum brakes\r\n\u2022 Original factory alloy wheels show no signs of marks or curb rash.\r\n\u2022 Tires are P215/65R15 Goodyear Eagle GT+4 mounted on all four corners\r\n\r\nThe bumpers are chrome with body color panels with a black rubber molding as an insert and are free of accident damage or corrosion. The headlights are free of any rock chips or damage. Rear lights are free of cracks or chips.\r\n\r\nThe seats and are in very good original condition and show very slight signs of aging and no tears are apparent.\r\n\r\n\u2022 Original gray steering wheel shows no major signs of wear or damage.\r\n\u2022 The dash shows no signs of damage from the sun or heat damage and is free of cracks or fading.\r\n\u2022 Carpets are gray and have no signs of wear and are protected by a set of gray carpet floor mats.\r\n\u2022 Black rubber mats are also installed to protect the carpet\r\n\r\nThe factory original Interior overall is in very good condition. Factory original pieces are all in place and show beautifully. The 3-spoke gray steering wheel and all of the control knobs adds to the accents of the woodgrain dash. Nothing has been added or removed from the Interior that didn\u2019t come from the factory including the AM/FM cassette.\r\n\r\nThe gray door panels fit is very good with uniform gaps and no pinch points. Doors open and close easily, with no sagging or binding. The power windows move up and down easily. Door panels are free of holes and tears. Console controls are all working properly and free of any damage.\r\n\r\nThe factory original headliner is a beautiful gray to match the rest of the gray cloth interior. No sagging or damage is apparent to the headliner.\r\n\r\nAll of the black trim is in very good condition with no major signs of\r\nscratches or fading. All trim pieces are present and have a very good\r\nfinish. Original factory tinted glass is in very good condition with no\r\nsigns of marks or scratches on the windows.\"\r\n\r\nVerbiage from appraisal report...", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1699229335, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12890520, "authorName": "UNGN", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/ungn/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Looks pretty stock with typical K&N Filter / MAF bracket mod that nets a good performance improvement over the stock can filter box. You can tell stock/never raced cars because they still have the screen on the intercooler.\r\n\r\nA picture of the SPID label on the trunk is always a must for G-body ads.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1699232794, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12891147, "authorName": "emanrace", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/emanrace/", "bidAmount": 18000, "content": "$18,000 bid placed by emanrace", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1699244931, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 12891267, "authorName": "bkrug", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/bkrug/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Jaggy99 To me these Regal Turbos are just as cool as a Grand National, and maybe just a little more rare. It would be good if you could show some better underside photos on a hoist, it's a pretty low mileage car, it should show well underneath. I know you mentioned you guys had snow recently, if you get a clear day with dry roads, a real driving video would certainly not hurt, it should show how tight original low mileage cars can be going down the road, not to mention these were a fun car to drive especially when you got on them a little from a stop sign or stop light. Good luck with this one, hope you and the family have a pleasant surprise at the end of the auction.", "likes": 5, "timestamp": 1699249604, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12891294, "authorName": "Z282SLO", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/z282slo/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "A very nice-looking well-kept Turbo-T here. The appraiser wrongly notes the air cleaner as being 100% correct (although what's on this car is a very popular, period-correct mod) and I'm not sure what wood-grain dash is being referred to because this car doesn't have one. I second the mentions of posting the SPID label and a driving video. Best of luck to seller and bidders on this rare Buick!", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1699250668, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12891793, "authorName": "Jaggy99 (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jaggy99/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Hey folks, here is the SPID", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1699278051, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12891813, "authorName": "Jaggy99 (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jaggy99/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Z282SLO Thanks for pointing out those corrections on the appraiser report.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1699278207, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12891834, "authorName": "Jaggy99 (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jaggy99/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@bkrug Again, thank you for your recommendations. We don't have access to a hoist. The roads are definitely still wet and sloppy and more rain is in the forecast, so it's unlikely I'll be able to take the car for a drive. I had it professionally detailed and I'd like to hand the car over to the new owner nice and clean.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1699278524, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12892841, "authorName": "Linicklo", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/linicklo/", "bidAmount": 18500, "content": "$18,500 bid placed by Linicklo", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1699287951, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 12893013, "authorName": "brose218", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/brose218/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "As far as I know the only regals to be advertised or billed as \"turbo t\" were the we4/w02 cars from the end of 1987. This is a very nice T-type Turbo but not technically a \"turbo t\" I know I'm deep in the woods with the minutia on this one but just wanted to clarify.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1699289350, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12895103, "authorName": "Rich97z", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rich97z/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "From what I\u2019ve read, Buick never designated a particular model or option package as \u2018Turbo T\u2019 in \u201887. They simply stopped advertising the T Type as a model and began offering the T package on all Regals as an option. The \u2018Turbo T\u2019 name has been applied by folks over the years to any 87 Regal with the T package and the LC2 inter cooled and turbocharged V6. I have a near perfect \u201887 \u2018Turbo T\u2019 in Black (super sleeper with all chrome and stainless exterior trim options) so will be very interested to see where this one goes. Good luck to the seller!", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1699298327, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12899591, "authorName": "UNGN", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/ungn/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "There are more advantages to a '86 T-Type / '87 T over a GN (besides Colors) if you want a stock appearing Resto-mod you drive and enjoy... and people should, because these are very fun cars. \n\nThe T-Type wheels will allow for 12\" disc brakes (Like LS1 Camaro Front and back will fit inside them), where the 10lb each heavier, Steel GN wheels only allow 11\" brakes, The slightly less offset of the T wheel will allow a 275/60 Drag radial in back without rubbing the frame. The only drawback to the T wheel is the GN wheel is way easier to keep clean. \n\nThese are the pinacle of '80's factory sleeper.", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1699324254, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12900208, "authorName": "brose218", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/brose218/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Rich97z I have some original dealer sales materials from period that begs to differ. Including a \"brochure\" for the Turbo T (meaning the we4/w02) If you're curious I'd love to show you.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1699339710, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12900855, "authorName": "Jaggy99 (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jaggy99/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Some great discussion about these cars. You guys certainly know more about these Regal T's than I do.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1699366784, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12908026, "authorName": "Rich97z", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rich97z/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Upon further research, it looks like brose218 might be right. I don\u2019t know what to call my car now! I guess I will just go with \u2018faster than yours\u2019. \ud83e\udd23", "likes": 5, "timestamp": 1699408782, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12908249, "authorName": "Z282SLO", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/z282slo/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Adding to the Buick Turbo trivia here, @brose218 is correct - this particular car is not a Turbo T. In '87, the Turbo T models had WE4 on the SPID (1,547 produced), and the Grand Nationals had WE2 on the SPID (20,193 produced). There were three other turbo Buicks available in '87 -- Regal Limited with the turbo motor (1,035 produced), Base Regal with the turbo motor (4,268 produced), and, last but certainly not least, the GNX (547 produced).", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1699411768, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12908626, "authorName": "Breal", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/breal/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Can you advise the date codes on the tires or post a photos of the codes?", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1699420402, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12909861, "authorName": "Jaggy99 (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jaggy99/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Breal Hopefully these photos have what you are looking for.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1699457328, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12909915, "authorName": "RSAuto", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rsauto/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Jaggy99 Please advise 1)A/C function properly? 2)Power antenna work? 3)Pic #53 - rear main seal leak? 4)Documentation on re-paint? 5)Cruise work?\r\n\r\nThx!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1699457757, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12911222, "authorName": "Jaggy99 (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jaggy99/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@RSAuto The A/C functions property. The car was never repainted - it's original paint. I'll get back to you on the other items when I get home later this evening.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1699466574, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12913532, "authorName": "UNGN", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/ungn/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Tires appear to be from 1998. Even if they were 2018, if you intend to drive and enjoy this car, plan on swapping them. Perfect excuse for a 235/60 front, 255/60 rear upgrade. The 215/65's only practical use was squealing burnouts, anyway.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1699473033, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12917158, "authorName": "Jaggy99 (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jaggy99/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@RSAuto The cruise control works perfectly - just tested it. There does appear to be a small oil drip. I put a piece of cardboard under the car this morning and I see a few drips on it now. This car has been sitting for quite some time so I'm guessing some of the seals have dried out a little. I'm no mechanic so I can't be more precise than that.\r\n\r\nAs for the power antenna, should it automatically raise when the radio is turned on and retract when it turns off? Is there a switch to make it go up and down on demand? Apologies for my ignorance, this isn't my car.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1699489556, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12917228, "authorName": "3.8Turbo", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/3.8turbo/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Jaggy99, the power antenna will go up when the radio is turned on (in accessory/run key position) then go down when the radio is turned off, or the car is shut down.\r\n\r\nIf the antenna is broken (usually the plastic inner cable breaks), a new unit is readily available in the aftermarket (GBodyparts.com, HighwayStars.com). \r\n\r\nI replaced my power antenna on my \u201887 T, not that hard, except some scratches on my forearm\u2026..you need to pull the lower fender out just a little bit.\r\n\r\nThis is a beautiful \u201887 T, I have a 26,000 mile \u201887 in the lighter Silver Metallic\u2026..would make a good brother! Keeping a watch on this one, these cars are an absolute thrill to drive!\r\n\r\nGLWTA!\r\n\r\n\ud83d\udc4d\ud83e\udd13", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1699490344, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12917266, "authorName": "3.8Turbo", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/3.8turbo/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Also, a rear main seal drip (er, controlled seepage as BMW mechanics refer to it\u2026..no joke) is a common issue on low mileage Turbo Regals.\n\nIMHO, added proof of a low mileage Turbo Regal. \n\nMy \u201887 T and 7,000 mile \u201884 GN both have a rear main seal drip\u2026..just them marking their territory!\n\n\ud83d\udc4d\ud83e\udd13", "likes": 6, "timestamp": 1699490714, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12917280, "authorName": "Jaggy99 (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jaggy99/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@3.8Turbo @RSAuto Thanks for the info about the antenna. In that case, I would say it is not functioning properly right now. I can hear what sounds like the motor for the antenna running for a period of time and then it stops. When the appraiser was out a few months ago apparently he had the antenna working, so we've reached out to him for comment.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1699490748, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12917322, "authorName": "Jaggy99 (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jaggy99/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@TABuickMike My apologies, somehow I missed your question from a few days back. The worst spot of the clear coat peeling is shown in photo #27. There are other spots, but they are tiny and minor.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1699491092, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12917696, "authorName": "68PONCHO", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/68poncho/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Z282SLO\r\nInteresting. Which is this?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1699494974, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12917901, "authorName": "Z282SLO", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/z282slo/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@68PONCHO The car's body number plate indicates the specific model, but there is no picture of the plate. However, there are a couple of RPOs missing on the SPID that would be included on the label if this car was a Limited, so this particular car is a Base Regal with the turbo motor.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1699497786, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12917918, "authorName": "UNGN", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/ungn/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "In '86, a GN was a T-Type with the WE2 GN package. Also in '86 the \"T\" in T-Type DID NOT mean Turbo, as you could get a T-Type with an Olds 307 V8... and some of people who bought them, did so because they thought the V8 was faster than the V6.\r\n\r\nIn '87, the \"T-Type was gone, but the little \"T \"on the fender finally meant \"Turbo\". You could get a Base Regal with the \"T package\", a Regal Limited with the \"T package\" and WE4, which the marketing material called a \"Turbo-T\".\r\n\r\nThe Truth is fuzzy, but the WE4 \"Turbo-T\" appears to have been a midyear answer to the problem of excess demand for GN's, but a supply chain that could not supply enough GN specific trim pieces to satisfy GN demand. You can't build a GN unless you have special GN seats, GN Wheels, a GN Spoiler, but you can build a WE4. Quick! Marketing Dept! I need a press release!", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1699498036, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12918105, "authorName": "brose218", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/brose218/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@ungn This is similar to the story I was told, but from what I understand they ran out of the GN seats towards the end of 87. They also ran out of iron bumper brackets (on the we4 turbo t's they're aluminum) and also they ran out of iron rear drums (which is why on the we4 turbo t's they're aluminum as well) They sold the we4 as kind of a \"lighter\" alternative to the GN because of the aluminum instead of iron. But it was definitely a way to extend the run and meet demand.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1699501129, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12920055, "authorName": "Stepside4x4", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/stepside4x4/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Jaggy99 appreciate your auction! Independent of the appraiser \"original alloy wheels show no signs of of marks or curb rash\" can you provide more detail as they look like there are indeed marks or is this just clear coat missing? Drivers side door panel is that a crack in moulding or just a mark? Same with horn button ring crack or mark? thank you", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1699546630, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12920280, "authorName": "Jaggy99 (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jaggy99/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Stepside4x4 I just had a look at the car. It appears to be just clear coat missing on a few spots on the wheels. Horn button ring has a small crack. As for drivers side door panel, I'm not seeing any cracks or marks, but if you could reference which photo# you see it in I will double check it for you.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1699548209, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12920328, "authorName": "Stepside4x4", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/stepside4x4/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@jaggy99 picture 29 left hand side? thx for the very quick response", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1699548644, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12920366, "authorName": "Jaggy99 (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jaggy99/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Stepside4x4 Ah, yes, there is a crack. Good eye!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1699548851, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12921330, "authorName": "carfan1978", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/carfan1978/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "For you experts out tehre, in cases like this with rear engine main seepage, if it is not time to pull the engine to actuall overhaul anything (as in the case of low mile cars that sat a lot), do any of you use roducts like Blue Devil rear engine main or engine leak fix it to add to oil. I always wondered if they work in some cases. They are usually the consistency of water for such as the Blue Devil product. Best wishes to buyer and seller here. Would love to own this car.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1699554174, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12926240, "authorName": "XS29L9B", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/xs29l9b/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@UNGN @brose218\nThe folklore is pure nonsense. Please Stop. \n\nIn mid-1986, the final model-year of the 1987 Buick Regal could be ordered. The 2nd week of November 1986, a new model, the WE4 (which was a black Turbo Buick with painted black bumpers and W02 Blackout trim) was announced. It became the only way to order a black car with W02 the balance of production. Production began the 1st week of December 1986.\n\nNow, why was the WE4 not a supply chain issue that could not supply enough GN specific trim pieces to satisfy GN demand? Because that's nonsense. \n1987 Buick Regal production - including Grand National production went into DECEMBER 1987. A FULL YEAR AFTER the WE4 was announced. \n\nThere were enough parts for the most part. Towards the very end, some radios were on constraint though. Same with a few other options. But seats? Nope... They were plenty. The last 1987 Turbo Buick was a Grand National. It had all the Grand National parts. Same with the cars built before. Again, folklore to say anything otherwise. \n\nAdditionally, your claim of: In \u201987, the \u201cT-Type was gone, but the little \u201cT \u201con the fender finally meant \u201cTurbo\u201d. is false, too. \n\nThe T emblem meant something other than what you think. It's a small emblem and some other specific equipment which was a part of RPO Y56 for both the 3.8L Turbo Buick Regal in 1987, and the 1987 Regal coupe with the 307 V8, It was not dependent on turbocharging. \n\nFor Y56 Regal Production: from the 8,547 built, subtract Turbo Regal numbers and you have 1,697 V-8 powered cars with the small T on the fenders.\n\nHopefully this info helps set the record straight and is of interest overall.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1699577794, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12926479, "authorName": "UNGN", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/ungn/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@XS29L9B\n\nThanks for Clarifying this on the '87 V8 T's, but for the WE4's I'm talking supply chain MRP gaps. Just because Buick had parts to finish out GN's in late '87, doesn't mean they didn't see there would be gaps in early '87 when they couldn't ship GN's and had to take pressure off suppliers. This happens a lot in large corporations.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1699580011, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12926733, "authorName": "XS29L9B", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/xs29l9b/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@UNGN\r\nNever happened. Again, stop the nonsense.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1699583634, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12927028, "authorName": "brose218", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/brose218/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@xs29l9B I don't agree with you, nor am I going to argue with you about it. Thanks for contributing your information, you can believe what you choose. Folklore is a lovely part of car history, and history in general. The only thing I stated as a fact was that this car is not a turbo t, and that I have period era dealer paraphernalia to back that up. Everything else I added was pure speculation and anecdotal, and honestly just for fun. No need to drag us through the mud for having a discussion. Thanks.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1699588978, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12928093, "authorName": "XS29L9B", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/xs29l9b/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "It's okay @brose218 as I wasn't looking for your validation. But the fact of the matter, is that your posts offer so much confusion, they don't help anything. In-fact, here's a few nuggets of nonsense you claimed:\r\n\r\n\"This is a very nice T-type Turbo but not technically a \u201cturbo t\u201d \"\r\n(FACT - It's not a T-Type, as that moniker ended after the 1986 model-year. The car is a Buick Turbo Regal)\r\n\r\n\"As far as I know the only regals to be advertised or billed as \u201cturbo t\u201d were the we4/w02 cars from the end of 1987.\"\r\n(FACT - Buick issued Product Information Bulletin 87-031 on November 15, 1986 which outlined the WE4 model and changes for how one could order a black 1987 Turbo Buick Regal. Production began a few weeks later, the first week of December 1986, which was hardly \"the end of 1987\")\r\n\r\n\"This is similar to the story I was told, but from what I understand they ran out of the GN seats towards the end of 87.\"\r\n(FACT - GM did NOT run out of GN seats towards the end of 87, as you understand from somewhere... GM continued production of the GN through the very end, with the last car off the line, a 1987 GN. I owned a late 1987 GN nearly 30 years ago. Funny, the seats were GN seats, no problem.)\r\n\r\n\"They also ran out of iron bumper brackets (on the we4 turbo t\u2019s they\u2019re aluminum) and also they ran out of iron rear drums (which is why on the we4 turbo t\u2019s they\u2019re aluminum as well) They sold the we4 as kind of a \u201clighter\u201d alternative to the GN because of the aluminum instead of iron.\"\r\n(FACT - Bumper brackets on the WE4 car, and found on some other Buick Turbo Regals, had nothing to do with parts supply. The real constraint was on volume of the heavier model. WEIGHT did play a part in production, but this was due to the CAFE Standards of the era. While you say, \"But it was definitely a way to extend the run and meet demand\", you are partially right. While it did not \"extend the run\", it did allow for a car to be built which looked similar to the Grand National, which was an extremely popular option for 87. With the lighter weight WE4 available, which looked very similar to the GN, Buick COULD build more sinister black cars and maintain the CAFE numbers imposed. Looking to the F-Body line, you can see similar tactics for weight savings. Aluminum driveshaft, aluminum spare wheel, limiting T-Tops, etc., to keep the heavier IROCs and GTAs below the threshold. \r\n\r\nI hope this helps to clarify. And no, folklore isn't history, it's interpretation and not based upon fact - and there's no fun in the fiction or fantasy.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1699627293, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12928135, "authorName": "XS29L9B", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/xs29l9b/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Jaggy99\r\nHere's a link for CBP for importing vehicles: https://www.cbp.gov/trade/basic-import-export/importing-car\r\n\r\nYour car should be an easy import for a few reasons. One, it was a US-produced car, and for that, it'll be cheap to being back without added duties. I have re-imported US built vehicles, no issues. \r\n\r\nOther reason is that one can simply claim the 25-Year rule and move on. I did not have to do that on mine, but it is available as a tool, if one needs. \r\n\r\nGood luck with your auction. It's a gorgeous 1987 Buick Turbo Regal and with the metric dash and overall good condition, should bring all the money.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1699627683, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12929163, "authorName": "brose218", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/brose218/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@XS29L9B you seem like the type of person who complains when the movie isn't the same as the book. I bet you hated that Ford vs Ferrari movie because it's not 100% accurate. Carrol Shelby wasn't as cute as Matt Damon but it's okay, sometimes a good story is more fun than the facts. This has always been a huge part of the car community. It's half the fun. Trading stories and folklore. That's what makes these cars interesting. That's the only thing that ties all valuable cars together, a good story. A vw beetle and a Ferrari are polar opposites but they both have great stories and that's partially why they're valued. But you seem to be the type to suck the fun out of things. Also it seems from your comment history you love to come in and correct people but you don't really bid on cars or contribute to the overall conversation otherwise. Seems like a personal issue. But again thanks for the information. I'll say again the only thing I stated as fact was that the we4 was the turbo t. Thanks.", "likes": 5, "timestamp": 1699635512, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12934498, "authorName": "Jaggy99 (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jaggy99/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Hey folks, you've had some great questions about this awesome 1987 Buick Regal Turbo and there has been some passionate discussion about the various models and nuances of these cars - awesome! Less than two days left on the auction so please fire off any questions you have about the car and I'll do my best to answer your questions!", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1699656262, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12935337, "authorName": "Jaggy99 (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jaggy99/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "For those of you thinking about transport of the Buick to the USA, we just sold our 1969 GTO Judge on BaT and we came across a company by the name of Big Sky Auto Transport. They will take a vehicle from Calgary, AB to the East Coast USA for about $3000, including all importation docs. This is an open multi-vehicle transport vehicle with 8+ vehicles on it, but it's a much more economical option than hiring a private enclosed trailer.\r\n\r\nFor more information, contact them directly at 1-406-453-4590.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1699666131, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12935799, "authorName": "bkrug", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/bkrug/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Jaggy99 I got lost trying to read all the forum arguments on what your car is supposed to be called from a technical aspect, and I'm a pretty detailed car guy, to me this car a low mile 1987 Regal Turbo in nice condition, that is worth more than the current bid. GLWTA.", "likes": 8, "timestamp": 1699673249, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12938347, "authorName": "Jaggy99 (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jaggy99/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I found the vehicle requisition document from 1987 - here is the section with the vehicle info.", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1699725964, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12942145, "authorName": "Jaggy99 (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jaggy99/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "We've had some requests for more photos of the under carriage. These photos are hot-off-the-press. It's not easy taking these photos without a lift but I hope this helps for those who are inquiring.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1699743600, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12942560, "authorName": "gnational", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/gnational/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "This is a Totally Awesome 1987 Buick With the iconic 3.8 V6 Turbo engine - a modern marvel to say the very least.\n\nWOW - somewhere there should be a definitive history of \u2018all\u2019 Turbo Buicks from the ERA. Clearly the production of these \u2018T\u2019 Buicks history is a bit confusing ! !\n\nSomeone should write an unequivocal book ? Perhaps there is one - or several.\n\nClearly - this is a VERY NICE example !! \ud83d\udc95\ud83d\udc4d\ud83c\udffb", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1699748689, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12943940, "authorName": "tta1387", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/tta1387/", "bidAmount": 19000, "content": "$19,000 bid placed by tta1387", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1699795364, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 12946629, "authorName": "Jaggy99 (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jaggy99/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Hello everyone and welcome to the last hour of the auction on this 1987 Buick Regal T! \r\n\r\nFor those bidders in the US who may have missed the message earlier about a reasonable transport option, I'll repeat it now. A company by the name of Big Sky Auto Transport will ship a vehicle from Canada to anywhere in the USA in their multi-vehicle transport truck. We recently sold our 1969 GTO Judge and the buyer is using this company to ship the vehicle from Calgary to Maine, and the total cost door-to-door, including customs import fees, came to $3000. Not bad. If you aren't as far away as Maine I would think the fees would be less. This company is coming to pickup the GTO on Tuesday so maybe, just maybe, the winner of this auction could have the same truck load up the Buick on Tuesday as well - if there is enough time to get everything done. The number for Big Sky Auto Transport is 406-453-4590.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1699816191, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12947184, "authorName": "bkrug", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/bkrug/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Hey @Jaggy99 GLWTA!", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1699818271, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12947441, "authorName": "RSAuto", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rsauto/", "bidAmount": 19250, "content": "$19,250 bid placed by RSAuto", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1699819323, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 12947468, "authorName": "Anonymous", "authorUrl": "", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Reserve not met on 11/12/23 at $19,250", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1699819444, "type": "bat-bid-reserve"}, {"id": 12947497, "authorName": "XS29L9B", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/xs29l9b/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Rather anti climatic end. Is the world watching football games today? \r\nI think the car is worth double what was bid, and in my opinion, more than a comparable Grand National. These cars are special, and that's a fact.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1699819563, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12947519, "authorName": "Jaggy99 (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jaggy99/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Definitely disappointed with the lack of interest on this auction, but thanks to everyone who commented and placed bids during the past week!", "likes": 5, "timestamp": 1699819651, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12948692, "authorName": "whotyler", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/whotyler/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "This being a Canada car keep people from bidding? Wow!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1699824133, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12949672, "authorName": "DBAOne", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/dbaone/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Now this is surprising. Of the RNM cars today, I thought this would do better.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1699831828, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12950048, "authorName": "gnational", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/gnational/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Shocking Results", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1699836718, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12950203, "authorName": "Jflaherty", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jflaherty/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "This is a nice car. import to US and tranport + broker fee would be roughly 3k if your on the West coast, perhaps closer to 5 if you are on the East. it worth every dollr of 19k all in.. 25 is still low for recent sales.. I am hoping this is a sign of these cars coming back down to fair market.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1699838435, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12950342, "authorName": "elcaminofan", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/elcaminofan/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Jaggy99\r\nFor sure this is a great car, we have a 1986 T-Type, had it since new.\r\nDesigner trim package.\r\nI had a question about the emission certification label that I neglected to ask during the auction. Does the label contain wording to the effect that the emissions meet US federal regulations?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1699840128, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 12950729, "authorName": "bkrug", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/bkrug/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Jaggy99 I'm sorry you didn't have a better result, Being a CDN and having sold on BaT, I have no doubt that there is still apprehension from US bidders to bid on a CDN car. I just take that out of the equation now on my auctions, I hire the broker, I take care of the import of the car into the US on behalf of the buyer at my expense, plus I pay for the transport across the border into Michigan. They only need to transport the car from the Detroit area, and the buyer has all the paperwork they need to register the car in their home state with a clean US entry. I got tired of all the questions about the border and not enough about the car..The last car I sold to the high bidder after it did not meet the reserve cost me less than $ 2,000.00 US to have it sitting in Michigan with all the required paperwork.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1699845155, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 13167174, "authorName": "kws6000", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/kws6000/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Where is this car located?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1702165449, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 13270993, "authorName": "Agcustoms", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/agcustoms/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Will this car be re-listed if reserve is not met?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1703341662, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 13274482, "authorName": "Jaggy99 (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jaggy99/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "This car has been sold privately now. Thanks for your interest!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1703362905, "type": "comment"}]