[{"id": 15195682, "authorName": "Johnhb", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/johnhb/", "bidAmount": 10000, "content": "$10,000 bid placed by Johnhb", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1722979453, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 15195925, "authorName": "bald_eagle", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/bald_eagle/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Back in the '70's these looked like space ships to me and still do.", "likes": 11, "timestamp": 1722980137, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15196311, "authorName": "Flying_Dutchman", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/flying_dutchman/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "\"This SM was previously owned by Jerry Hathaway\" is like saying \"This cello was previously owned by YoYo Ma\".\r\n\r\n@bald_eagle - Compared to what most car companies were producing in the early seventies, this WAS a space ship!", "likes": 15, "timestamp": 1722981721, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15196628, "authorName": "Biscotte57", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/biscotte57/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Yesterday one sold for $18250 ,really hard to believe???? when just a paint job cost $15000, new Inside $5500, a tire Michelin 270!!! X5=$$$$ \r\nI will be delighted to meet the new owner and bill sale \r\nAs per this one \r\nLet see \r\nIt will have to be less knowing it need a paint job\u2019\ud83d\ude09 or the sm market is not real \r\nAt all", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1722984053, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15197026, "authorName": "Matt_C", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/matt_c/", "bidAmount": 19720, "content": "$19,720 bid placed by Matt_C", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1722987522, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 15197112, "authorName": "Johnhb", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/johnhb/", "bidAmount": 19970, "content": "$19,970 bid placed by Johnhb", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1722988450, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 15197208, "authorName": "Blizzard340", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/blizzard340/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Love this car - but the wheels?\nThey can be changed.\nGLWA!", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1722989302, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15197260, "authorName": "DanChester", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/danchester/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "The paint condition is certainly a concern, but I also can't help noticing that the car was photographed with the adjustable suspension in the full up position instead of the normal position. Never seen that before. Does the hydro-pneumatic suspension system work properly? The tight view in the video does not show the whole car moving through the adjustment range.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1722989676, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15197293, "authorName": "DavidRoseHRL", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/davidrosehrl/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Apologies if this has already been asked, but have the timing chains been done (or inspected) recently? I would love to know whether anyone has looked over the car recently and what they might have found.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1722989997, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15197457, "authorName": "CherylU (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cherylu/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Hello I am Cheryl Hathaway, Jerry\u2019s Hathaway\u2019s oldest daughter. This is Jerry\u2019s show SM as the license plate says. It\u2019s a unique car even for Citroen enthusiasts. I unfortunately don\u2019t have documentation of much of the exact details about the car. If you have questions I will do my best to answer them. Thank you.", "likes": 10, "timestamp": 1722991372, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15197988, "authorName": "Impslap", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/impslap/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I saw this car several times when Jerry serviced our own \u201872 SM at his shop and found myself drooling at it every time. The interior and undercarriage was so clean that I never noticed if the paint had issues back then (2019ish) The paint is not a big deal considering the love he had for this car. I would be bidding if he hadn\u2019t done such a good job sorting our own SM, lol! Owned by the master himself is quite the pedigree. Someone is going to score here.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1722997026, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15198811, "authorName": "Biscotte57", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/biscotte57/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Yes it looks like a great one \r\nDespite the paint job\r\nToo bad it\u2019s an USA front which make a huge difference in final offer \ud83d\ude09\ud83d\udc4d", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1723030360, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15199425, "authorName": "Flatplane", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/flatplane/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Given the paint did not stick to the primer I'm thinking this one has to go back to bare metal before being re-sprayed. Can't imagine that is less than $20K.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1723038893, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15199593, "authorName": "MikeDLA", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/mikedla/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Not sure if this helps any prospective bidders but I figured I would share. I bought one of Jerry\u2019s SMs (registered in his name) here on BAT a couple of years ago after he passed. Like this listing, the seller Cheryl noted there was no documentation regarding what work Jerry might have done on the car. I think this might have scared off some other bidders and I was certainly a nervous buyer. After taking possession I was thrilled to discover that Jerry had pretty much sorted everything with the car. A couple of minor issues were noted in the listing and quickly resolved thereafter, otherwise the car has been a trouble-free joy to drive both locally and on freeway runs of 2+hrs.\r\n\r\nI love the comment by Flying Dutchman \u201cThis SM was previously owned by Jerry Hathaway\u201d is like saying \u201cThis cello was previously owned by YoYo Ma\u201d.", "likes": 8, "timestamp": 1723040267, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15201464, "authorName": "ader6", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/ader6/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@biscotte57 - bids now exceed your \u201creal market\u201d limits", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1723051168, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15203915, "authorName": "Biscotte57", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/biscotte57/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "So happy ,the price is going up knowing we have 6 !! More days\r\nOwner myself of a sm 72 being fully restored with David Hum excelsior midway Ky \r\nLet see in 6 days \r\nMerci $$$$$ no doubt \r\nPhilippe", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1723058211, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15203991, "authorName": "Biscotte57", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/biscotte57/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I personally thing last sm sold for 18250$ was a joke \r\nNot the real market \r\nDo no doubt this one will attempts a fair market \ud83d\ude4f\ud83d\ude4f\ud83d\udc4d\ud83d\udc4d\r\nLooking forward to enjoy this honnest sale", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1723058457, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15204247, "authorName": "Fleche_dOr", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/fleche_dor/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Some other sightings of this car:\r\n\r\nVideo (8 min 34 sec) posted 08/12/2023, \"Jerry Hathaway\u2019s 1972 Citroen SM\":\r\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoZIRW2iqFk\r\n\r\nInstagram (10/08/2023):\r\nhttps://www.instagram.com/hemmings/p/CyJlh33S6Qn/?img_index=1\r\n\r\nNot sold on Hemmings (03/04/2024):\r\nhttps://www.classic.com/a/hemmings-offers-ln1lgv4/lots/1972-citroen-sm-450l2vp\r\n\r\nA bit of auction data:\r\n\r\nThere have been 82 previous SM auctions on BaT, 12 within the last year. Bids ranged from $4,600 (sold 05/30/2024) to $62,500 (RNM 03/28/2024). The BaT record is $83,000 (sold 01/31/2019).\r\n\r\nOn classic-com, the record within the last five years is $203,500 (sold 01/22/2021), but this is an \"outlier\", as it was Mr. Hathaway's Land Speed record car and the SM pickup used to tow it. The high sale for a \"regular\" SM within the last five years is $101,129 out of 89 sales recorded by classic-com. Below is the summary for the last five years, followed by the last year price break-down.\r\n\r\n5-years:\r\n\r\nAvg $40,825 (about 38,636 w/o the Hathaway car)\r\nSales Count 89\r\nLowest Sale $2,200\r\nTop Sale $203,500/$101,129 (see above)\r\nMost Recent $18,250\r\n\r\n1-year:\r\n\r\nAvg $34,505\r\nSales Count 20\r\nLowest Sale $4,600\r\nTop Sale $57,120\r\nMost Recent $18,250\r\n\r\nBTW, the \"Most Recent\" car indicated above, and also referenced in the comments already, was this BaT car:\r\nhttps://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-citroen-sm-51/", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1723059212, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15204304, "authorName": "charlesmaraia", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/charlesmaraia/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Biscotte57 That SM that so,d for $18K needed a lot of work to a,le road worthy\u2026plus paint, which was not great.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1723059379, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15205980, "authorName": "CherylU (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cherylu/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@MikeDLA I\u2019m so happy you\u2019re enjoying the car. Thank you for your positive feedback. Yes Jerry would make sure the cars a mechanically sound before starting to do cosmetic enhancements.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1723064501, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15206663, "authorName": "CherylU (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cherylu/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@DanChester yes paint is in need of work. It was unfortunately sitting in the sun shortly after me acquiring it. The lacquer paint started to crack in some areas. The hood is aluminum and since water got under the lacquer from the cracks it easily peels. \r\nThe hydropneumatic suspension works great, you\u2019d think I, being the daughter of one of few Citroen mechanics in the USA would be more familiar with how to set the suspension but, I had to call my son to figure it out on photo shoot morning.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1723067370, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15207461, "authorName": "CherylU (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cherylu/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "You can see the Show SM in the background of this pic of SM World in the early 1970s. Estimated time based on the race cars, naturally aspirated hood still being on.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1723074369, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15208532, "authorName": "John_P", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/john_p/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "A piece of art and history. From my viewpoint - why would you paint it? It's lovely as is, and the mechanics are the important thing. The provenance too. Just enjoy it. I have a tatty green one - its blemishes are part of its history.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1723087388, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15208553, "authorName": "Airmango", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/airmango/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Cheryl. I\u2019ll hope to watch this example go for a price it deserves. I just sold my \u201873 Hathaway SM and thoroughly enjoyed your dad in all my visits with him. The earlier comments sum it up, the provenance of your dad makes it very valuable. Good luck!", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1723087696, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15218802, "authorName": "azheat1", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/azheat1/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "The engine is not a 2.7L, the serial number shown in photo is a 3.0L engine, C114.04/2.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1723164145, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15220841, "authorName": "azheat1", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/azheat1/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "The 3L engine serial number installed in the car C114.04/2 is a USA/Canada 3.0L automatic engine.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1723213658, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15229906, "authorName": "OldSaab", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/oldsaab/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "A quick blurb from the Brits:\r\n\r\nhttps://www.classicandsportscar.com/gallery/17-brilliant-french-performance-cars#10", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1723281591, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15230431, "authorName": "LLynn", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/llynn/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "And for a quick blurb from Jay Leno: \r\n\r\nhttps://www.hagerty.com/media/maintenance-and-tech/5-project-cars-reserved-for-the-brave/?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_content=MED_UN_NA_EML_UN_UN_WeekendRoadTrip&hashed_email=eab6adcae3580463f67b1297259c82a60098c58b961feb2afae48f67957022e0&dtm_em=eab6adcae3580463f67b1297259c82a60098c58b961feb2afae48f67957022e0\r\n\r\nCheers,\r\nLynn", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1723296582, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15233217, "authorName": "rluciano", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rluciano/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Do you still have the wheel covers for the original wheels that are in the YouTube video? \r\nAlso do you know what the hydraulic system cycle time is now?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1723314829, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15234277, "authorName": "CherylU (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cherylu/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@rluciano, yes the wheel covers are still in the trunk. Although they will not work with the Boyd Coddington wheels currently on it as they are 17\u201d\r\nYou can contact MARRS Automotive they may have replacement wheels you could purchase.\r\nCycle time is good, the car is currently in storage or I\u2019d post a video of the car running but you should be able to get a decent idea on the YouTube video.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1723318394, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15234984, "authorName": "CherylU (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cherylu/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Here are some pics my son took when working at SM World. They replaced the water pump seal, added an upgraded radiator and, a few other items to get the car show ready. Pictures are from October 2017 shortly before Jerry took it to The Best of France and Italy car show at Woodley Park.", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1723321141, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15253823, "authorName": "rluciano", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rluciano/", "bidAmount": 22500, "content": "$22,500 bid placed by rluciano", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1723509049, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 15255095, "authorName": "leeoz", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/leeoz/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "greetings Cheryl,wishing you a successful sales and price I am very familiar with Jerry's stunning SM from all my OZ visits and workings at SM W. I have notified my mates here in OZ so fingers crossed. best regards to Chris. cheers lee", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1723533030, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15256912, "authorName": "mgAH", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/mgah/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "When and by whom was the car painted?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1723564930, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15261209, "authorName": "Biscotte57", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/biscotte57/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Should go way higher , seriously \r\nDon t let this go for peanuts \ud83e\udd5c", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1723579123, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15261326, "authorName": "witheylh", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/witheylh/", "bidAmount": 22750, "content": "$22,750 bid placed by witheylh", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1723579476, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 15261443, "authorName": "DLKS", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/dlks/", "bidAmount": 23000, "content": "$23,000 bid placed by DLKS", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1723579855, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 15261446, "authorName": "rluciano", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rluciano/", "bidAmount": 24000, "content": "$24,000 bid placed by rluciano", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1723579866, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 15261448, "authorName": "gfx", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/gfx/", "bidAmount": 25000, "content": "$25,000 bid placed by gfx", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1723579871, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 15261459, "authorName": "DLKS", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/dlks/", "bidAmount": 26000, "content": "$26,000 bid placed by DLKS", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1723579907, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 15261473, "authorName": "rluciano", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rluciano/", "bidAmount": 27500, "content": "$27,500 bid placed by rluciano", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1723579967, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 15261495, "authorName": "gfx", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/gfx/", "bidAmount": 30000, "content": "$30,000 bid placed by gfx", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1723580052, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 15261518, "authorName": "dps", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/dps/", "bidAmount": 30500, "content": "$30,500 bid placed by dps", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1723580144, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 15261523, "authorName": "rluciano", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rluciano/", "bidAmount": 32500, "content": "$32,500 bid placed by rluciano", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1723580167, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 15261543, "authorName": "gfx", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/gfx/", "bidAmount": 33500, "content": "$33,500 bid placed by gfx", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1723580248, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 15261568, "authorName": "rluciano", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rluciano/", "bidAmount": 35000, "content": "$35,000 bid placed by rluciano", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1723580341, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 15261604, "authorName": "rluciano", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rluciano/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Sold on 8/13/24 for $35,000 to rluciano", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1723580462, "type": "bat-bid-reserve"}, {"id": 15261633, "authorName": "MiniClubmanS", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/miniclubmans/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "What a great car, and bought at a good price.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1723580548, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15261783, "authorName": "John_P", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/john_p/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "BAT auctions have become nail-biters as everyone seems to have embraced the \"let the clock run out\" approach. No-reserve sellers need anxiety meds. \r\n\r\nLovely car, such a history, truly unique and with the pedigree will always be valued by SM enthusiasts. Wish I had been able to clear room and funds for it.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1723580959, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15261822, "authorName": "Biscotte57", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/biscotte57/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Great deal no doubt \r\nWay higher in Europe if same condition\r\nWelcome to\r\nOur sm club \r\nVery few no doubt \r\nPhilippe", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1723581066, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15262060, "authorName": "rluciano", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rluciano/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Well I think this will be a nice stable mate to my 1964 Citro\u00ebn 2CV 4x4.", "likes": 7, "timestamp": 1723581845, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15262225, "authorName": "bobrk", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/bobrk/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Damn I could almost afford that!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1723582312, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15262692, "authorName": "CherylU (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cherylu/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@rluciano congratulations!", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1723583787, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 15262804, "authorName": "CherylU (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cherylu/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@leeoz thank you! \r\nChris has pics of you and Jerry last time you visited working on an engine tear down. They are on his instagram @citroenguy87", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1723584162, "type": "comment"}]