[{"id": 10892250, "authorName": "BritGuy6", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/britguy6/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Beautiful! Stunning photography.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1678233035, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10892265, "authorName": "Captjmk", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/captjmk/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "The car that started my passion for old cars, 1972 in Monterey, sitting original condition green on the corner lot for sale. My dad said no way! I was 9.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1678233178, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10892266, "authorName": "kevvkevv", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/kevvkevv/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "By far the most beautiful TF I have ever seen!!", "likes": 8, "timestamp": 1678233180, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10892356, "authorName": "sperotto", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/sperotto/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Amazing blue. I have a 55 TF and just decided what color to paint it! Can the seller tell me what color blue this actually is?", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1678234140, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10892379, "authorName": "Harpoon", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/harpoon/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "According to the VIN the original color was black\r\n\r\nHD (2 door roadster) A (black) 4 (North America import) 6 (cellulose paint) / production number\r\n\r\nSo at least the wings are the original color.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1678234466, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10892386, "authorName": "sperotto", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/sperotto/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Yes. But I\u2019m looking for the blue palette numbers.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678234608, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10892454, "authorName": "CDMarsh", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cdmarsh/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Agreed! That blue is amazing. This car looks lovely.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678235309, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10892507, "authorName": "Shutterbug9", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/shutterbug9/", "bidAmount": 1954, "content": "$1,954 bid placed by Shutterbug9", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678235769, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 10892574, "authorName": "wichitaengraver", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/wichitaengraver/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Very elegant looking paint scheme.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678236403, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10892588, "authorName": "halc", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/halc/", "bidAmount": 8000, "content": "$8,000 bid placed by halc", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678236650, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 10892619, "authorName": "akpcm (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/akpcm/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678237061, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10892623, "authorName": "akpcm (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/akpcm/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Hi everyone we are excited to bring this one to BAT, please let us know if you have any questions.\r\n\r\nPlease note any and all inspections need to take place prior to the auction ending, please call us to arrange and set up an inspection.\r\n\r\nWe can also assist with shipping within the United States for any out of state buyers if needed. Feel free to give us a call or email to get a quote. Thank you.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678237086, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10892843, "authorName": "johnpalmland", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/johnpalmland/", "bidAmount": 10000, "content": "$10,000 bid placed by johnpalmland", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678239561, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 10892886, "authorName": "BritGuy6", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/britguy6/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "More eye candy with those new videos! But I did notice one thing it appears the back of the drivers seat is coming away, have these seats been re upholstered? They look 'sat-in', very comfortable like an old couch! cheers Geoff", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1678240253, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10892919, "authorName": "BritGuy6", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/britguy6/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "This has got to be a better investment than the stock market right now, might have to divest some funds for this one!", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1678240446, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10892988, "authorName": "MNberg", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/mnberg/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "WOW, this might be one of the most beautiful TF's ever seen. Well done-----beautiful color combination. This TF may break the bank. Best of luck to the Seller.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678241266, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10892990, "authorName": "Kizitiz", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/kizitiz/", "bidAmount": 10250, "content": "$10,250 bid placed by Kizitiz", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678241287, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 10893167, "authorName": "smont7", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/smont7/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "First, agree that this TF is beautiful, and love the blue with black.\r\n\r\nI got to pic 34 and thought, wait, is that a NJ inspection sticker? A quick zoom confirmed it is!\r\n\r\nGrew up in NJ and remember going to the inspection station and worrying whether my car would pass. Haven\u2019t lived there in 40 years, but I know they don\u2019t issue those anymore. Don\u2019t know when they stopped. But love that it\u2019s been left on!\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nGrew up in NJ, so remember going to the inspection stations and hop", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1678243284, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10893184, "authorName": "Bayman65", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/bayman65/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "In my own humble opinion, WAAAY too much chrome and shiny bits. Not at all what an original TF would have looked like. DO like the blue/black paint combination, though.", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1678243559, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10893208, "authorName": "WilliamTaylor", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/williamtaylor/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Please, are their side curtains?", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1678243903, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10893258, "authorName": "RealBatman", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/realbatman/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@akpsm the '54 had a 1250cc motor. Is this 1500 the original motor, bored over?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678244497, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10893282, "authorName": "cottrd", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cottrd/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "So glad I grew up driving a 1954 1250 MG TF. And while I look at every TF that shows up on BaT I'm more than satisfied to just look and admire these terrific MGs. Someone had a blast restoring this one as spending money certainly wasn't much of a concern...........(G)", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1678244730, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10893301, "authorName": "Rowdoc", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rowdoc/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@RealBatman the build plate shows an XPEG (1500 cc) engine as original equipment", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1678245154, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10893459, "authorName": "anteater", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/anteater/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Can the selling dealer confirm the dumb iron stamping (chassis stamping) also indicates TF7238?", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1678247981, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10893552, "authorName": "anteater", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/anteater/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@RealBatman the 1500 was an option that gave a couple more HP. A somewhat desireable option today in the collectors market, that back in the day was deemed rather useless as the street engine. That is why we need confirmation on the dumb iron stamping.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1678249938, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10893708, "authorName": "RealBatman", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/realbatman/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@anteater @Rowdoc thanks for the clarification. I have '54 TF, same owner since 1990. It's definitely a looker. I may be putting it up for sale soon. See how this plays out", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678253792, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10893717, "authorName": "DeanBean", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/deanbean/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Well I'm confused. 54s had XPAG 1250s. This one sports 1500 badges and has XPEG data plate, but also lacks the rear reflectors which were a 55 thing. I've never heard of someone being able to special order an XPEG into a 54.\r\nOtherwise nice. I own a gold /green 55 that my Aunt bought new, and had the dealer paint it to rid it of a green exterior she hated. The blue looks great.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1678254109, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10893903, "authorName": "billyblyth", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/billyblyth/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Well, this is a really well done car. Better than facory I'm sure. Is there such a thing as over done? It would be a sad day when you owned a TF that was too fine to drive with abandon...IMHO", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1678268580, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10893970, "authorName": "JLsKA510", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jlska510/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I used to have my Europa serviced at Octagon Motors\u2026 love those gauges!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678275100, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10894335, "authorName": "Spastrick", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/spastrick/", "bidAmount": 12500, "content": "$12,500 bid placed by Spastrick", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678283885, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 10895123, "authorName": "cottrd", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cottrd/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "There were 6,200 MG TF 1250 models and 3,400 1500 MG TF models produced between 1953 and 1955. Production stopped in either February or May of 1955 based on what I could find online, but I think May is most likely. So some TF 1500 models were likely built in 1954. Those TF 1250 cars built in 1953 I'm sure were considered 1954 models, but I would like to hear from those more knowledgeable as to production dates, etc.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678291148, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10895823, "authorName": "morganplus8", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/morganplus8/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I'm sorry to rain on the parade and don't hate me, but the color combination is just not to my liking......", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1678296439, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10898387, "authorName": "1bid", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/1bid/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Difficult to tell if the blue in person is more light or dark. Pic 34 it appears like a light French blue, but pic 32 it is more a dark French blue. If in person it is the more dark color then I think it looks pretty good with the black. Not sure about the overly shiney bits previously mentioned. As far as over-restored goes, TF's and TD's are often over-restored.\r\nTC's used to get over-restored, but calmer heads have (mostly) prevailed with TC's. I don't think a TF looks bad over-restored, but any chrome where there was not originally chrome is a turn off.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1678307582, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10898676, "authorName": "iangail", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/iangail/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "With an indicated 62k miles can we please have a cold engine start, a driving video and a photo of the brass engine number plate on the block below the leading edge of the exhaust headers. Thank you.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678308711, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10901556, "authorName": "akpcm (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/akpcm/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@iangail yes will work on these for you.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678325194, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10901670, "authorName": "akpcm (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/akpcm/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@iangail is this what you wanted to see?", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1678326689, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10901999, "authorName": "iangail", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/iangail/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Yes, that's the plate but the number on it doesn't correspond with the number on the plate on the bulkhead adjacent to the toolbox. So it seems like the car doesn't have matching numbers.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1678330772, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10902197, "authorName": "Rowdoc", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rowdoc/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "The engine tag says it is an XPAG (1250 cc) not the XPEG (1500 cc) noted on the build plate\r\nThe engine number 32984 does not show up in the T registry. There were engines that were replaced under factory warranty and the new numbers are not part of the registry, but they should be XPEG engines. There are other places to look for numbers. On the cylinder head look for a stamped casting number AE118 for an XPEG . The actual engine number may be stamped on the block above the Octagon tag.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1678333521, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10902307, "authorName": "Rowdoc", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rowdoc/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Correction for XPEG engines the number on the cylinder head would be AEF 118 There may be an engine block number of AEF 133 , There may be other numbers . I just spent the ;last several months with the help of the MG T registry people in UK tryoing to track down the engine in my TF. It appears that my XPAG was likely replaced with an XPEG under warranty. There are a couple websites that have information on MG engine numbers", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1678335212, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10902355, "authorName": "DeanBean", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/deanbean/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Rowdoc that might account for the otherwise out of place 1500 badges, if it was part of the upgrade demanded by the PO, kinda like the SL350 crowd that got 450 badges mailed to them.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678336036, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10902651, "authorName": "anteater", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/anteater/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "TF7238 appears to have originally come with a XPEG. We do not even have the dumb iron stamping confirmation yet to indicate this car ever had a 1500. Chances are it is TF7238 with a replacement XPAG. Won't know til we get confirmation on the dumb iron stamping.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678346652, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10904039, "authorName": "halc", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/halc/", "bidAmount": 14000, "content": "$14,000 bid placed by halc", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678377666, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 10904767, "authorName": "Spastrick", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/spastrick/", "bidAmount": 15500, "content": "$15,500 bid placed by Spastrick", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678382754, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 10906738, "authorName": "akpcm (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/akpcm/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1678390979, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10906904, "authorName": "cottrd", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cottrd/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Rowdoc wouldn't a TF with a car number higher than 6200 be a TF 1500? What does TF3188 indicate shown below? And the head #22952?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678391829, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10907075, "authorName": "bringatrailer", "authorUrl": "", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "The listing has been updated to reflect the additional serial numbers and casting marks provided by the seller. We're sorry for any confusion this may have caused. \r\n\r\n-BaT", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678392456, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10907086, "authorName": "Rowdoc", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rowdoc/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Chassis No. TF3188\r\nOriginal Engine No. XPAG/TF/32984\r\nBuild Date 11/02/1954\r\nProduction Car No. HDE43/3188", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678392511, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10907159, "authorName": "iangail", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/iangail/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "So this is a 1250 and not a 1500?", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1678392847, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10907250, "authorName": "Rowdoc", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rowdoc/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Yes the engine is an XPAG and matches the medallion. The engine number matches the chassis number on the dumb iron . So it is numbers matching MGTF except for the build plate . A new correct build plate can be obtained I'd remove the old one. I'd also update the listing to chassis number HDE43/3188", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678393365, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10908163, "authorName": "iangail", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/iangail/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "How would one go about getting a new and correct build plate and would this be costly?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678395818, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10910851, "authorName": "anteater", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/anteater/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Another fake 1500, from who knows when? I wonder where they got the real ID plate from a real 1500 to illegally transfer over? So in reality it is TF3188 with its original 1250 XPEG, and fake 1500 badges and a title based on a pilfered (real) 1500 makers plate. Pretty strange, but not all that unusual.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1678408923, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10910853, "authorName": "anteater", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/anteater/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "1250 XPAG I meant...", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678408963, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10911198, "authorName": "akpcm (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/akpcm/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "A few minor blemishes. Very clean overall", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678412776, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10911344, "authorName": "WilliamTaylor", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/williamtaylor/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Beautiful car. Not being a purist I don't care what is original or not. It is a work of art and if I had the $$$ I would own it if I were not over 80!", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1678414726, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10911376, "authorName": "Player", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/player/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "As a CA dealer are you going to have the title corrected? I would be unable to correct the title as a private party in Nevada. Can one sell a car in CA with a known misstated VIN number?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678415273, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10911476, "authorName": "Saxwine", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/saxwine/", "bidAmount": 16000, "content": "$16,000 bid placed by Saxwine", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678416766, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 10911495, "authorName": "Saxwine", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/saxwine/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "After reading all of the questions and comments, I want to know if this car is a 1500 or not?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678417028, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10911678, "authorName": "WilliamTaylor", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/williamtaylor/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Still wanting to know if there are side curtains! Please.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678420149, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10911789, "authorName": "BritGuy6", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/britguy6/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I just went through 3 1/2 months of to and fro with the CA DMV to register a 1991 XJS with CA plates from an Oregon dealer. The first thing to do is get friendly with your local DMV manager!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678422297, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10911859, "authorName": "1bid", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/1bid/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "All a DMV inspector would look at on this car is the ID plate, and match it to the title. They would not look for the chassis stamping or even the engine number. But yeah, it is messed up. All because one of the previous owners thought they were buying a real 1500, so they made it so. Sort of. The XPAG is actually a better engine. Someone was real desperate to have a 1500 TF!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678423676, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10913364, "authorName": "akpcm (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/akpcm/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "We apologize for any confusion. We advertise the car the way it was sold to us and are very thankful to the BAT community for being able to give some transparency to this car. We do not have much knowledge on MG\u2019s but we bought it based on condition to offer it to the BAT market as it appears that someone gave it a lot of love, time and money , it\u2019s absolutely stunning. Thanks again for all of your help and Happy viewing/bidding.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1678463110, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10914090, "authorName": "cottrd", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cottrd/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@1bid I always felt the 1500 had minor upgrades that made those cars more desirable. Why do you think the 1250 engine is better than the 1500 motor? Having grown up with a TF with a replacement TD engine (the car was campaigned at Watkins Glen by the first owner) I don't think they were initially very strong engines. But costly upgrades available today apparently do help in that regard.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678468284, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10915040, "authorName": "1bid", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/1bid/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@cottrd the top end is the weak point of either of these engines. But that is only really the case when users demand excessive RPM's from the engine. XPAG is a classically British long stroke and narrow bore configuration. These engines make power at relatively low RPM's and you can get most all the power by 4,000 rpm. Curiously enough the XPAG starts getting a harmonic vibration at certain RPM's above 4,000 rpm that are known to be particularly destructive. Yet people insist on revving the engine over 4,000 rpm. When you do that the bottom end suffers, as one would expect. The XPAG was a perfectly designed engine from an engineering standpoint, just like the Jaguar 3.4 engine was. The XPEG was a marketing ploy that has no regard for sound engineering, just like the 3.8 jaguar (and 4.2) were a lowering of the bar from the original. Not a lot lower, but a little lower.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678472797, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10916604, "authorName": "iangail", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/iangail/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Can I please repeat my request for videos of a cold start and a through-the-gears drive?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678478125, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10917257, "authorName": "EssieG", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/essieg/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Hi. Would anyone be so kind and explain this engine thing to me in simple terms??!!! Thanks so much!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678480571, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10917415, "authorName": "Spastrick", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/spastrick/", "bidAmount": 17000, "content": "$17,000 bid placed by Spastrick", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678481249, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 10917586, "authorName": "cottrd", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cottrd/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@ibid, unfortunately I'm learning this 60 plus years too late about not going over 4,000 RPM........(G) I have noticed most of the upgraded engine components seem to address the lower end of the engine not the top end - forged cranks and rods, etc., but I assume there must be some top end components offered as well. As for longer stroke motors I think my 5.5 liter MB V12s seemed to rev smoother than the longer stroke 6.0 liter V12 engines that make more HP. So the 1500 motor being more square bore to stroke wouldn't upset me too much, but you understand these engines much better than I remember from so may years ago.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678481993, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10917980, "authorName": "cottrd", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cottrd/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@ibid personally if I were looking for a nice TF, one of the first things I would want is the transmission upgraded to a five speed vs all the bing this one offers. I don't know if you would agree but it helps to keep the RPMs in a lower range. As I recall 4000 RPM was 60 mph. Don't know what the RPM would be with a five speed conversion at 60 mph but certainly lower than 4000 RPM. Or I think there are differential options from MGAs or even MGBs that are a less costly option. But all of these ideas send restoration costs skyrocketing, so buying one already done is far and away the smarter way to go even if you have to spend $40K of more to get an exceptional example.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1678483198, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10918757, "authorName": "Kizitiz", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/kizitiz/", "bidAmount": 17250, "content": "$17,250 bid placed by Kizitiz", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678486206, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 10919617, "authorName": "akpcm (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/akpcm/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@iangail yes we are working on this for you. Raining all day today.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678490648, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10919727, "authorName": "sdmg", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/sdmg/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Really looks nice, although I can see where you'd ether love or hate the colour. \r\nUnfortunate that someone tried to pass it off as a \"TF-1500\" when it never was. I still think it will fetch a pretty penny.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1678491871, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10920423, "authorName": "akpcm (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/akpcm/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1678498984, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10920637, "authorName": "1bid", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/1bid/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@cottrd \"top end\" typically means rocker shaft, cam lobes and tappets. Over revving will greatly increase wear on these things. Operating the engine as it should be (under 4K rpm) the only surprise will be that the rocker shaft will still wear out faster than one might expect. A minor expense it shaft wear is monitored and service rendered when appropriate. One needs to join one of the T-type or Y-type groups to get the scoop of who sells garbage rocker shaft parts and show has got the good stuff. Forged or otherwise improved cranks and fancy pushrods, etc have always been available for either the XPAG or XPEG. The XPEG was considered a joke back when because the power increase could be got from a stock XPAG by shaving the head a bit to increase compression ratio.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678501907, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10920857, "authorName": "Spastrick", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/spastrick/", "bidAmount": 18000, "content": "$18,000 bid placed by Spastrick", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678505963, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 10920946, "authorName": "Harpoon", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/harpoon/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "No mention of original tool kit roll and tools or correct Shelly jack and irons or 16\u201d Sutty hand pump or TF hand book. Is the tool box lined with the original white compressed felt?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678507480, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10921204, "authorName": "sdmg", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/sdmg/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@harpoon Ha.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1678516037, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10922388, "authorName": "motorcar_collector", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/motorcar_collector/", "bidAmount": 20000, "content": "$20,000 bid placed by motorcar_collector", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678550082, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 10927883, "authorName": "RogueG", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/rogueg/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "To those asking, the TF 1500s started production in July 1954, (#6501) and are considered a 1955 Model year. Most manufacturers still do that. The caution here is that someone used a later title and plate to register this car. A records search on the actual vin # may be wise...", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678577261, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10928028, "authorName": "JBLOOMFIELD", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jbloomfield/", "bidAmount": 25000, "content": "$25,000 bid placed by JBLOOMFIELD", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678579010, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 10928803, "authorName": "Spastrick", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/spastrick/", "bidAmount": 26000, "content": "$26,000 bid placed by Spastrick", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678590183, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 10929784, "authorName": "KAK69", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/kak69/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Like all XPAG/XPEG engines, they were designed to perform their best at higher RPM. Will it wear more at high RPM? Of course. But puttering around at 2000-3000 RPM is pretty boring, and makes driving in traffic a chore. Pulling hard at low RPM puts great stress on the crankshaft, increasing likelihood of breakage. \nThe torque curve is relatively flat after about 2000RPM, and peak HP is at 5500. \nI find the best performance is achieved shifting around 4000-4500. I\u2019ve driven stock TD\u2019s near 5000 RPM for long distances and the major issue is noise. The TC is a better driving car given stock XPAG engine, gearbox, and rear ratios due to its larger wheels than either the TD or TF (although the TC is blessed with a better, more robust gearbox) \nConsidering a rear ratio swap may be done instead of changing the gearbox to receive some benefits on a TD or TF.\nMy point is, assuming you have decent oil pressure, compression, and ignition timing, change the oil a lot and drive these cars like they were meant to be driven!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678629754, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10930014, "authorName": "moosetwo", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/moosetwo/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@KAK69, amen brother!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678632618, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10930686, "authorName": "JBLOOMFIELD", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jbloomfield/", "bidAmount": 30000, "content": "$30,000 bid placed by JBLOOMFIELD", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678638915, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 10932854, "authorName": "toward", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/toward/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Factory XPAG has stroke of 90mm and bore of 66.5mm. I would hope that eny gearhead would know that High RPMs with a stroker is to be avoided unless elaborage measures (race engine) have been carried out= $$$$. Max torque rating is at 2600RPMs and peak HP is at 5600RPMs. By 4,000RPMs you are getting 47 of the 54 rated HP which is 87% of the HP, and all of the torque. @1bid stated here that \"most\" of the \"power\" is achieved by 4,000 RPM which is completely true. Maybe @KAK69 had forged cranks or roller cam setups available for sale. He says he likes to shift a 4000 to 4500 which is right in the zone of the harsh harmonic vibration XPAG's experience. Overall bad advice from KAK69, unless he is talking about a racing engine, which he don't mention. @1bid's 4000RPMs redline I would assume is his shift point. Who said anything about puttering around 2-3,000 RPM's? The Wood article on the XPAG is widely available on the internet. TC mororing guild has a copy online for free. Just google \"XPAG Wood\"", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678647577, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10934415, "authorName": "MaxCA", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/maxca/", "bidAmount": 30251, "content": "$30,251 bid placed by MaxCA", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678654848, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 10935034, "authorName": "JBLOOMFIELD", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jbloomfield/", "bidAmount": 32000, "content": "$32,000 bid placed by JBLOOMFIELD", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678657401, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 10936379, "authorName": "cottrd", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cottrd/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Around $40K plus gets you a great TF 1500 and I'm not sure this one is comparable. Maybe looking at the results from the Ponder collection would be worth the time involved. The first 27 pages are the memorabilia that almost brought $4M before you get to the cars sold. The model airplanes in the collection were interesting along with the kids peddle cars.................", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678677318, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10938200, "authorName": "Niceguy2", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/niceguy2/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Seller, maybe it did not run long enough to start registering but in both start ups the oil gauge did not move off O? What is the oil pressure after warmed up at idle?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678724584, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10939266, "authorName": "JBLOOMFIELD", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jbloomfield/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I noticed that as well. A concern. Does the gauge work? I am currently high bidder so I would appreciate an answer. \r\nThanks.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678729740, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10941193, "authorName": "anteater", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/anteater/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "While the overall last resto looks pretty well done, and holding up well, the engine does not sound very good. Hard to tell from a video, sometimes. Really worn out rocker shaft and shot main bearings will give you next to zero oil pressure, with no relief from shimming the relief valve. A worn out rocker shaft will cause oil to fill up under the rocker (valve) cover and you can usually hear it draining down when engine is shut off. Just speculation, as there is no drive video.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1678737867, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10941257, "authorName": "akpcm (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/akpcm/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@jbloomfield @niceguy2 we just recently noticed that as well. We are having it looked into as we speak. It\u2019s a gauge issue and we will keep everyone posted. We will post a driving video as well when we pick it back up. We also located the tool kit.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678738170, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10941380, "authorName": "JBLOOMFIELD", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jbloomfield/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Thank you for your attention. While I understand this is an older automobile so I don't expect \"showroom\". I do expect a reasonably solid running vehicle.\r\nThanks again,\r\nJohn", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1678738635, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10944486, "authorName": "iamnotcasey", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/iamnotcasey/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I know there are as many opinions about this as anything, but in my experience the stock XPAG, even in tired form, will rev happily to 5200 rpm, or higher without complaint. Lingering there will result in excessive wear but brief high revs pulling up through the gears will do no harm.\n\nIronically these long stroke engines do not like to be lugged. And asking it to accelerate hard in too high a gear at low rpm is more harmful than the opposite. My rule is to keep the revs about 3000 when accelerating and enjoy the raspy notes it makes.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678761572, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10944955, "authorName": "Miatadon", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/miatadon/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I owned a TF 1500 which I recently sold. The oil pressure gauge did give me problems which I had to send to a gauge rebuilder. Having owned many MGs over the years, you want the oil pressure and engine temperature gauges to be working properly. If you value your engine, you do glance at them frequently. \r\nThe engine in my car did not need major (or minor) work during my ownership. Just curious, if this car's engine needs redoing, what kind of costs would be typical?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678779608, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10945411, "authorName": "fredbauer", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/fredbauer/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I see it a pears to have a rebuilt engine. I could not reed the letters on engine tag. IS it a 1250, or 1500 engine? Octagon engine tad should be XPEG TF", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678799429, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10946254, "authorName": "akpcm (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/akpcm/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Oil gauge video.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678807149, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10946385, "authorName": "iangail", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/iangail/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "The oil gauge is working but the engine sounds very rough??", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1678808063, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10946609, "authorName": "akpcm (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/akpcm/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@iangail they are doing new plugs as we speak plugs were old.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678809875, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10946748, "authorName": "akpcm (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/akpcm/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Video running with new plugs and driving video", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678810903, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10947056, "authorName": "sdmg", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/sdmg/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "At these prices, not keen on that oil pressure in the driving video.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1678812846, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10947193, "authorName": "Niceguy2", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/niceguy2/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@sdmg, I agree, the oil pump is working fine but almost 0 at idle means loose clearances in the motor. On a downhill compression build up with a quick full throttle I'll bet blue smoke a bunch?", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678813353, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10947204, "authorName": "akpcm (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/akpcm/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@niceguy2 there is zero smoke out the car. Just picked up the car from shop they did recommend a new or rebuilt oil pump. Car runs strong and has a smooth power band.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678813550, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10947911, "authorName": "cottrd", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cottrd/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "These were certainly fun when I was a 140 LB teenager and fit in the car perfectly, but that was a long time ago..........and as I have posted before I've done about everything I would ever want to do in an MG TF many years ago............(G)", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678816022, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10948682, "authorName": "MEGuide", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/meguide/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "As an owner of a 1500 TF and TD as well as prior owner of TC and a rare NB, these TFs are wonderfully fun cars to drive. And, they're about as cute as any car on the road. May I suggest potential owners join the MG \"T\" Register, become informed, ask questions and learn about the cars. Buy a manual and study-up. I know it's out of fashion to become knowledgeable before buying in this world of dizzying online auctions, but the fun is learning, meeting folks with a similar interest and \"chasing\" the car(s) of your dreams. The iceing is owning and enjoying the car. But, the cake is the process.", "likes": 10, "timestamp": 1678819310, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10949556, "authorName": "cottrd", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cottrd/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@ibid what exactly is a race spec engine? And what is the ballpark cost to build one and can you keep the state of tune at a level so the car is reasonably street usable and reliable? Wish Gene Ponder was following along as he certainly could provide considerable input. If I had been seriously interested in buying an MG, his collection auctioned off last fall was the place to attend. Laystall aluminum cylinder heads, and MG models with both Holley and Weber carburetors were on display and open for bidding. I think that was a once in a lifetime opportunity and reviewing the auction results is not to be missed.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678822849, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10950309, "authorName": "akpcm (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/akpcm/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Just ordered this from sportscarpartsltd for $320 and the oil pump will be rebuilt. Thanks and happy bidding", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1678825894, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10951441, "authorName": "Spastrick", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/spastrick/", "bidAmount": 33000, "content": "$33,000 bid placed by Spastrick", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678829753, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 10951450, "authorName": "JBLOOMFIELD", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jbloomfield/", "bidAmount": 34000, "content": "$34,000 bid placed by JBLOOMFIELD", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678829803, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 10951465, "authorName": "Spastrick", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/spastrick/", "bidAmount": 35000, "content": "$35,000 bid placed by Spastrick", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678829867, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 10951471, "authorName": "JBLOOMFIELD", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jbloomfield/", "bidAmount": 36000, "content": "$36,000 bid placed by JBLOOMFIELD", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678829891, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 10951489, "authorName": "Spastrick", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/spastrick/", "bidAmount": 40000, "content": "$40,000 bid placed by Spastrick", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678829945, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 10951496, "authorName": "JBLOOMFIELD", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jbloomfield/", "bidAmount": 41000, "content": "$41,000 bid placed by JBLOOMFIELD", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678829982, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 10951605, "authorName": "Spastrick", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/spastrick/", "bidAmount": 45000, "content": "$45,000 bid placed by Spastrick", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678830438, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 10951644, "authorName": "Spastrick", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/spastrick/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Sold on 3/14/23 for $45,000 to Spastrick", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678830603, "type": "bat-bid-reserve"}, {"id": 10951652, "authorName": "Mrbritcar", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/mrbritcar/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Beautiful MG. Congrats to all!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678830618, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10951663, "authorName": "akrzczuk", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/akrzczuk/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Congrats on your first BaT win, @Spastrick! Glad you FINALLY got one -- and what a beauty she is!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678830650, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10951714, "authorName": "AJL1988", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/ajl1988/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Wow.. $45k is a ton of money for a TF 1250... but... this is a hell of a nice example worthy of the price. Exceptional color combination, I really adore it.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1678830870, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10951719, "authorName": "DJB1111", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/djb1111/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Spastrick Congratulations! This is a beautiful car and you would pay double today to restore one to this condition. I bought one last Spring and my wife drove it all summer. A TF is a beautiful fun car so enjoy it. Nicely done!", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1678830908, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10951731, "authorName": "KAK69", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/kak69/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Beautiful car... drive it and enjoy it!!", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678830968, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10951736, "authorName": "Spastrick", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/spastrick/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Thank you everyone, very excited. A car i will pass down to my grandkids. Beauty indeed.", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1678830984, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10952039, "authorName": "DeanBean", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/deanbean/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Given this result, it appears there is hope for us with matching #s TF1500s... \ud83d\ude0e", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1678833791, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10952119, "authorName": "WilliamTaylor", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/williamtaylor/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Great car if I had the $$$ to spare I would have gone to 50G\u2019s.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1678834657, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10952202, "authorName": "cottrd", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cottrd/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "And I thought the bidder at $32K would back out of buying the car but @JBLOOMFIELD kept going up to $41K. I guess both bidders regretted missing the Ponder Collection auction.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678835487, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10952944, "authorName": "JBLOOMFIELD", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jbloomfield/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Great car and I wish him well and fun. But, to top his bid would have been $46K and that will buy a lot of TF.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678842284, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10953415, "authorName": "cottrd", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/cottrd/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@JBLOOMFIELD $46K will typically buy you a hell of a lot more TF.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1678848143, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10953865, "authorName": "sdmg", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/sdmg/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Wow. Imagine if it were a real 1500 what the winning bid would be.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678860022, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10954094, "authorName": "JBLOOMFIELD", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jbloomfield/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I also had to add $2K for delivery because I\u2019m East coast. That would have made it $48K.", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1678879797, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 10954195, "authorName": "markp2801", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/markp2801/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Dang. I just purchased a sweet 54 TF, 1200, numbers matching for 27K. Guessing the value will go up on it now.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1678882786, "type": "comment"}]