[{"id": 2498210, "authorName": "SeattleCurmudgeon", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/seattlecurmudgeon/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Croustillante. Je la voeux quand meme.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1536268629, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2498219, "authorName": "SeattleCurmudgeon", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/seattlecurmudgeon/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Is the seller's father still with us?", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1536268703, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2498249, "authorName": "Hersefan", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/hersefan/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "THIS is what Midwestern salt usage does to older, non-galvanized sheetmetal. Ouch.\n\nCute as a button, though!!", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1536268963, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2498262, "authorName": "Hersefan", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/hersefan/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@SeattleCurmudgeon moi aussi, monsieur, moi aussi. Tres belle.\n\nUn peu rouillee, on peut dire.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1536269129, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2498718, "authorName": "72911", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/72911/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Somehow this reminds me of the sprout my mum makes me eat every Christmas.\r\n\r\nI\u2019m almost 40.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1536272650, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2498729, "authorName": "High_Hope", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/high_hope/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I always thought these were nicely proportioned cars with fascinatingly French details. As a kid I need Europe we were riding in a Mercedes panorama bus heading up the Austrian alps for a winter ski vacation. My dad and I were in the front right seats. One of these passed the bus, returned to our slow lane, and skidded on the ice on the side of the road. In an instant it snapped sideways and proceeded to roll repeatedly in front of us. Seeing a car flip over and over again from a Panorama M-B bus was very memorable.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1536272870, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2498972, "authorName": "GlenK", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/glenk/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I have to say I do love the styling of these. Any here in Canada rusted away quickly especially in Montreal where they were popular. Unfortunately up in the North east salt is a fact of life in the winter. So, I will just go on dreaming of finding one with much lessrust.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1536277214, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2499012, "authorName": "Peter_K.", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/peter_k.-user/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Living in New England, I do not believe this is salt eaten. That under carriage looks as though it has been park on grass or dirt. Or even the dirt in a barn. Always remember: moisture raising is usually non stop when you park it on grass, dirt, gravel.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1536278580, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2499049, "authorName": "Hersefan", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/hersefan/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Salt, moisture, and time.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1536279798, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2499138, "authorName": "Romaric", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/romaric/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Nice parisian French plates on it!", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1536283056, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2499160, "authorName": "Roadmaster", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/roadmaster/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@SeattleCurmudgeon Beaucoup croustillante, mais Je la voeux aussi. I agree with @Peter_K. - this looks like longtime ground contact rust, not road salt. Past the point of no return, I'm afraid. Pity---a unique and attractive oddball.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1536284078, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2499204, "authorName": "jkowalski (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jkowalski/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Bonjour, amis -- The rusty floors shouldn't be regarded as a killer on this car. New floor pans are available from specialists in Europa for pretty cheap. Repairing the floors shouldn't be any more complex than the same routine on a VeeDub Bug, a 356, a 2CV or other car with fairly simple sheet metal floors. parts of the frame could use some gussets welded on too -- very simple, basic. The suspension mounting points look very solid, and the body overall is really pretty nice (please have a look at all the pics -- I put 'em here for you guys!). \r\n@SeattleCurmudgeon -- Yes, Dad's still with us, thanks for asking. This was going to be a father/son project that we could work on together when I would visit. His advancing age is catching up with him, and he doesn't feel up to working in the garage any more. I trucked the car up to my garage, but without my Dad involved anymore, I just can't get juiced up on the project anymore.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1536285170, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2499213, "authorName": "jkowalski (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jkowalski/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@72911 I don't know about a Christmas sprout...In this spring green color, it always reminds me of a tree frog...Something about the round eyes, the protruding nose, and the overall stance, with the big, slender wheels way outstretched at each corner...Looks likes it's gripping the road just sitting there.", "likes": 6, "timestamp": 1536285639, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2499528, "authorName": "JFH", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jfh/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@High_Hope\r\nImagine the memories the driver of the 4CV has !\r\nGLWTA.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1536316301, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2499541, "authorName": "High_Hope", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/high_hope/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@JFH good call. Our bus slowed to a stop as the Renault finished its pirouetting. The Renault had four full-size German kids in it. They clambered out of the wreckage, called to our driver to say they were ok, and then we proceeded to weave thru the debris field on our way to the mountain.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1536317290, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2499670, "authorName": "bentleyboy29", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/bentleyboy29/", "bidAmount": 44, "content": "$44 bid placed by bentleyboy29", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1536324296, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 2499674, "authorName": "bentleyboy29", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/bentleyboy29/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Who wants to chime in on tranny repair?", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1536324392, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2499701, "authorName": "Ringo2244", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/ringo2244/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Probably rust in the clutch mechanism, just like frozen brakes. Being objective, disassembly and and lube will likely bring it back to life.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1536325127, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2499740, "authorName": "Brewster", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/brewster/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Somebody please rebuild this little orphan. There's only one sedan on Hemmings, fully restored. They would be a perfect runaround town car in todays world", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1536325967, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2499872, "authorName": "jkowalski (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jkowalski/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Re, Transmission: It used to be easy to scoff at the Ferlec semi-automatics. Now, it's as interesting a part of the car as the styling or mechanicals or the history...When people see this car, they come rushing up like they want to hug it...but then they become fascinated by the technical description of the transmission and that seems to leave as big an impression as anything. For its rarity and uniqueness, I think the Ferlec is a big \"net plus\" for the car. Quite a few semi-automatic Dauphines were sold in the US, but few have been saved. Many good Ferlec-equipped models were trashed to restore cars with pedal clutches. This is a rare survivor and the electro-magnetic clutch is its party trick.", "likes": 6, "timestamp": 1536329924, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2499885, "authorName": "jkowalski (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jkowalski/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Romaric ; Sharp eye for detail there! Yes, the \"75\" in the French registration number designated Paris district back in the day. I don't think it works that way anymore with EU regs. Car has current Arizona plates, but we always display with the period-looking Frenchy ones.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1536330146, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2500032, "authorName": "jkowalski (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jkowalski/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Ringo2244 ; @bentleyboy29 ...My assessment matches Ringo's, theorizing that the clutch assembly is crusted up with a mix of rust, coagulated lubricants and road dust, and that it may (MAY) just need to be taken apart, cleaned, lubed up to work. I can hear the microswitch (under the floor at the bottom of the shifter) clicking like its supposed to when the shifter is move, indicating that it's sending its signal to de-clutch and change gears...The electronic control box (\"the Brain\") in the engine compartment is immaculate looking; totally free of dust or corrosion (see pics, inside and out!), and that has GOT to be a good sign...The electronic control is very cleverly designed, though primitive compared to anything today, and this thing was considered very reliable in the day. I don't think it will be a huge challenge to a competent mechanic.", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1536333172, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2500126, "authorName": "dennis", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/dennis/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "My next door neighbor had one of these in high school (1962 or so) and every 6 months he would drop the engine oil pan and shim the rod bearings with newspaper. Thinner than brass shim stock ...", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1536335537, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2500138, "authorName": "Roadmaster", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/roadmaster/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Here's a German outfit that seems to have at least some replacement floor pieces. Pretty cheap but shipping to the States might not be:\r\n\r\nhttps://www.franzose.de/en/Renault/Heckmotor/Bodenbleche/", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1536336002, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2500230, "authorName": "bentleyboy29", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/bentleyboy29/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Jkowalksi:... so, will it run enough to load on a trailer?", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1536338986, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2500553, "authorName": "tonyola", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/tonyola/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "As a kid I used to see some of these in east central Florida when my family moved down there from Missouri in 1966. By 1970 or so, there were no more to be seen. By the way, what's up with the melting instrument labels? Is it humidity or French art?", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1536344512, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2500570, "authorName": "jocaj", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jocaj/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Roadmaster ... and a complete detailed repair manual for Ferlec clutch in English:\r\nhttp://www.renaultownersclub.com/wp-content/uploads/vehicles/750%20Ferlec.pdf", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1536344737, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2501316, "authorName": "AlfaZagato", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/alfazagato/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Complaints about the rust, I could tell of a much worse car just north of the Illinois-Wisconsin border on US 14. Been sitting there for years next to a Dauphine. Antique shop that keeps them also has some big twin-motor job sitting in the southern end of the yard.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1536353227, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2501571, "authorName": "austin_alfa", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/austin_alfa/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "A bid of $44? That's just sad", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1536356454, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2501650, "authorName": "jkowalski (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jkowalski/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@tonyola -- Re, speedo graphics; This is a very common phenomenon on many of the Jaeger and Veglia gauges with plastic lenses used on some Euro cars of the era...One scrubs off the old figures and applies a new decal (twenty bucks on eBay for a new one). But the way it is now reminds me of a Dali masterpiece of surrealism.", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1536357290, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2501670, "authorName": "jkowalski (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jkowalski/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@bentleyboy29 - Re, loading onto trailer. We use the Armstrong Method around here to push it up the ramps. Thing is light as a feather. Failing that, I have a strong winch and the will to use it.", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1536357459, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2501690, "authorName": "jkowalski (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jkowalski/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@austin_alfa...Make us all happy then.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1536357682, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2501792, "authorName": "bentleyboy29", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/bentleyboy29/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@ Austin Alfa... 44, plus BaT minimum fee of 250, plus 1500 freight to most of America, im at $1794 already??", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1536358813, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2501940, "authorName": "High_Hope", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/high_hope/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "As the (former) owner of a 911 Sportomatic I agree. The engineering dead-ends are fascinating.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1536360931, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2502098, "authorName": "meccano", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/meccano/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "And I thought the blurry pictures of the speedometer was due to high speed...", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1536366353, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2502380, "authorName": "tunaboatz", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/tunaboatz/", "bidAmount": 145, "content": "$145 bid placed by tunaboatz", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1536379347, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 2502537, "authorName": "bentleyboy29", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/bentleyboy29/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "There IS a God.....", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1536404485, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2502652, "authorName": "Thaxted2bat", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/thaxted2bat/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "You'd think the oil dripping out of the engine would protect the rest of the undercarriage.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1536411868, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2502746, "authorName": "jkowalski (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jkowalski/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@High-Hope -- Yes, the Sportomatic in your Porsche was a similar concept, but that unit (also used by VW, SAAB, Fiat, and many others) used a centrifugal clutch. \"Engineering dead-end\"? Eh...perhaps...I think Porsche used the same basic unit in the 90s, rebadged as 'Sensonic', and these forerunners at least began the path to today's Tipronics and whatnotics...THERE IS ANOTHER INTERESTING PORSCHE TANGENT TO THIS LITTLE RENAULT, in that it's final development was overseen by none other than Ferdinand Porsche. The VW Type 1 influence is evident from the start, and even as the company came under complete control of the occupying nazi forces, design for what would become the first new post war French car kept developing. Porsche himself was \"invited\" (ordered) to visit France as a consultant as to the future of Renault's car manufacture and to oversee final design of this car. After the war, the car was a huge hit and an instant French classic. Things didn't turn out so well for Porsche, as we all know, who was jailed by the new free French government (along with Feri Porsche) as a nazi collaborator...Poor Louis Renault came out even worse: After his company was overtaken by nazi \"management\", he too was jailed as a collaborator. After the liberation of France, he died in jail (apparently after numerous beatings) just as the company he built was being nationalized (stolen) by the new French government. Very interesting histories in our old cars!", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1536415310, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2502773, "authorName": "jkowalski (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jkowalski/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Thaxted2bat -- Yah, too bad the motor wasn't in the front: We used to call those drips \"rustproofing\" on my old Alfas. Seriously, though, the steel around the engine cradle is great, and the engine compartment is in really nice original shape. The original engine splash pans are in place, and in great shape (THESE ARE ALMOST ALWAYS MISSING on these cars, and correct replacements are very scarce). Other nice original details in the engine compartment include the correct air cleaner assembly, the truly excellent Ferlec control box, the snazzy finned aluminum valve cover with it's gorgeous machined filler cap (export models to the US usually came in full 'DeLuxe' trim) It's really a neat little car! And there is really a lot of good stuff to work with here.", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1536416035, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2502849, "authorName": "jkowalski (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jkowalski/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@High_Hope -- The Sportomatic (as the Saxomatic clutch as labeled by Porsche) used a centrifugal clutch, but is otherwise similar to the Ferlec system. It was used by many European manufacturers. Porsche used it again in the 90s as the Sensonic or something. An \"engineering dead-end\"? Eh...one could argue that...but these 'automatic stick shifts' were all forerunners of today's two-pedal, driver-controlled Tiptronics and whatnotics...They are a neat piece of automotive engineering development and history. And they worked pretty well for the times.", "likes": 5, "timestamp": 1536418510, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2502877, "authorName": "jkowalski (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jkowalski/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@High_Hope -- Here is another interesting Porsche tangent to this little Renault. Final development of the 4CV was overseen by none other than Ferdinand Porsche himself. During The War, while the occupiers took total control over Renault (and other important manufacturing) Porsche \"invited\" (ordered) by the regime to visit France and to work as a consultant on the future of French car production. The VW Type 1 overtones to the 4CV are obvious, and final production version of the car was influenced and approved by Porsche. The 4CV was France's first all-new post-war car, and became an immediate hit and instant French classic...Things went differently for Porsche immediately after French liberation when, as we all know, he ended up in a French jail, along with his son Feri. The history of Renault is really fascinating particularly the tragic end or Louis Renault himself", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1536419128, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2503644, "authorName": "Roadmaster", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/roadmaster/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@tonyola Here are your speedometer decals. All of $20 on eBay. They're actually a bit Helvetica-boring. I think like the Dali-esque numbers the way they are now:\n\nRENAULT 4CV SPEED O METER DECALS", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1536459948, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2504323, "authorName": "Classichondaman", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/classichondaman/", "bidAmount": 275, "content": "$275 bid placed by Classichondaman", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1536521067, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 2504641, "authorName": "tunaboatz", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/tunaboatz/", "bidAmount": 376, "content": "$376 bid placed by tunaboatz", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1536540378, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 2504887, "authorName": "NCboatrx", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/ncboatrx/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "If the winner of this auction is interested, I still have a workshop manual which covers the 4CV and Dauphine and there is one section on the Ferlec transmission.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1536579288, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2504937, "authorName": "Ganjoka", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/ganjoka/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Wow, a black1956 4CV was my first car! I was 16 and got it from a family friend that owned a repair shop. Paid $90.00 for it with only about 10 or 12k on the clock (this was 1965). I rolled it playing boy racer and damaged everything but the doors. Found a white 4CV with rotted doors so I fitted my black doors to it and called it my French police car! If I were younger and this car was a little less rusty I'd be all over it.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1536584074, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2505175, "authorName": "jorgeperf", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jorgeperf/", "bidAmount": 512, "content": "$512 bid placed by jorgeperf", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1536594380, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 2505417, "authorName": "356ruler", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/356ruler/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "This is \"Over The Top\" CUTENESS . at any car event this will bring a crowd !!! some of the comments about 'hard to restore\" well you not going to Pebble Beach . want to say thanke to the seller for his help . I am a player", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1536600735, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2506503, "authorName": "Bricklin2117", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/bricklin2117/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Absolutely too cool to allow to disappear!! Very neat suicide doors and an overall neat package. Adapt a newer Renault transmission and floor pans can certainly be redone from scratch.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1536613237, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2507212, "authorName": "jkowalski (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jkowalski/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@356ruler Thanks for your comments -- No, we don't presume this will ever be at Pebble Beach. It has tons more charm intrinsic to it NOT ever being restored. Example: There is a paper service tag on the door post from 1959! (3485 miles!) IT WOULD BE A SIN TO EVER REMOVE OR PAINT OVER THAT! There is just lots of original stuff here that still looks really good: All the chrome, lights, aluminum brightwork, instrument binnacle and switches -- even inside the engine room and trunk. The door cards and some of the vinyl will look great again with a red vinyl dye job...Once the patina and originality are replaced, they are gone forever. Incidentally, from the overall condition, we think the odometer reading of 11,805 is likely pretty accurate.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1536621842, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2507294, "authorName": "R1060", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/r1060/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "These are a blast and get so much attention. I have lots of excellent parts if needed here.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1536624630, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2507436, "authorName": "jkowalski (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jkowalski/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@R1060 -- By your 'handle' I would presume you have great expertise on the subject! If you will email your contact info, I'll make sure your resources are available to the auction winner. Thank you for chiming in.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1536629214, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2507961, "authorName": "Micromotor", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/micromotor/", "bidAmount": 700, "content": "$700 bid placed by Micromotor", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1536669009, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 2509165, "authorName": "Capt_Nemo", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/capt_nemo/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Boy, this is as cute...well, MUCH cuter...as a bug! So very French, with the reverse suicide doors.\n\nWere Dad still alive, he would be so interested. Not that cars were particularly his passion, but his 1930's farm upbringing and tinkering proclivities would make him absolutely fascinated by the Ferlec transmission. In the day, he wouldn't have rested until it was working. That, unfortunately, is something I don't share with him.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1536691617, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2509863, "authorName": "oldukguy", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/oldukguy/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I wonder .... What would be the cost of a quality replacement of all the rusty (rusted) floor panels?", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1536698257, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2509866, "authorName": "oldukguy", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/oldukguy/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Take A Look ..... https://bringatrailer.com/2011/10/10/best-weve-seen-1962-renault-4cv/", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1536698308, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2510839, "authorName": "Finger_Lakes_Vintage", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/finger_lakes_vintage/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "i am not very impressed that \"the dash appears crack free\" ...since the dash is made of metal", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1536712782, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2510850, "authorName": "Finger_Lakes_Vintage", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/finger_lakes_vintage/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "replacement floor panels are cheap\r\nhttps://www.franzose.de/en/Renault/Heckmotor/Bodenbleche/", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1536713263, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2511397, "authorName": "Dagwood", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/dagwood/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I hope this gets saved, but if it doesn\u2019t, at least the car should be a great source of parts for\r\na 4CV enthusiast.\r\nI DO hope the seller gets a bit more than 700$...and I think he will....just not until the last 15\r\nminutes. GLWTA.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1536747533, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2511445, "authorName": "oldukguy", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/oldukguy/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I like the shape and styling of these FrogMobiles. This example looks to be in good shape above the high-water mark but anything below that has been ravaged (note ravaged!) by the demon rust. I would like to see a rebuild estimate from a respected shop. I see big money on the horizon?", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1536751895, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2512064, "authorName": "jkowalski (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jkowalski/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@oldukguy -- You are a man of good taste. Thanks for your assessment. Re: \"big money\"...Realistically speaking, nothing about this car should be big money. It's not something anyone should sink $10-grand into. In terms of the \"ravages\", I'll re-state comments I made early on here, supported by others: The rusty floors shouldn\u2019t be regarded as a killer on this car. New floor pans and trunk floor are available from specialists in Europa (or here in the States apparently) for pretty cheap. Repairing the floors shouldn\u2019t be any more complex than the same routine on a VeeDub Bug, a 356, a 2CV or other car with fairly simple sheet metal floors. Parts of the frame could use some gussets welded on too \u2014 very simple, basic. The suspension mounting points look very solid, and the body overall is really pretty nice...It would be a real shame to think of parting this out.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1536766823, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2512091, "authorName": "treetrimmer", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/treetrimmer/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "It's too bad about the underside but I agree w seller that to restore the rest of this car would be a travesty. It would be ruined and does not need it.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1536767342, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2512205, "authorName": "Fordcarguy", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/fordcarguy/", "bidAmount": 800, "content": "$800 bid placed by Fordcarguy", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1536769514, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 2512690, "authorName": "Micromotor", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/micromotor/", "bidAmount": 900, "content": "$900 bid placed by Micromotor", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1536776530, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 2513216, "authorName": "Chrispc", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/chrispc/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I have a photo of my brother's CV4 snugly lodged end to end between two trees from his classmates pranking him college.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1536780945, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2513628, "authorName": "jkowalski (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jkowalski/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Chrispc -- Classic prank! Some wiseacres did the same to me in high school with my Fiat 128SL a looong time ago; right between two maples...Something about little cars brings out the mischief in otherwise normal people, I think. (Thanks for the memories! Ha!!)", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1536785805, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2514641, "authorName": "eima77", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/eima77/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@jkowalski\r\nSaw this when you first listed. Brought to a moment in better, although a disappointing time. In 1958-9, can't remember exactly, Saw my Dad looking at one of these. It had the price on it, He loved it, but we didn't have the money. I was very young thought I would buy it for Him. Did chores for neighbors, (begged) baby sat, pulled weeds and couldn't wait for my Grandfather to leave me a Silver Dollar on my dresser. Finally, Had Enough! Waited for Grandpa to come over and asked him to take me to get the car. He had to explain the reality of the price...My Dad would love this one and wouldn't mind restoring it, His craftsmanship was exceptional in all his hands once touched \r\nThank you for bringing this to BaT.\r\nVery Best to You with Auction and Lucky Winning Bidder!\r\n???????", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1536800455, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2514757, "authorName": "jkowalski (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jkowalski/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@eima77 Thank you for the touching story -- and I mean that sincerely. It is wonderful and sometimes bittersweet the way cars weave themselves into the fabric of our lives, and then remain there. I think everyone on this website shares that feeling very deeply. Best regards from Minnesota // Jim", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1536803870, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2514901, "authorName": "eima77", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/eima77/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@jkowalski\r\nThank you for the Very Kind reply. BaT Brings many memories, and dreams ahead for many. I hope whoever wins this, makes it a project with a Loved One.\r\nLast Year, I gave my last Silver Dollar To My Son, and told him the story. Life's a Journey of laughter and tears. \r\nVery Best to You and Yours!\r\n\u263a\ufe0f??????", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1536809768, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2515051, "authorName": "motointl1962", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/motointl1962/", "bidAmount": 1800, "content": "$1,800 bid placed by motointl1962", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1536827434, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 2515143, "authorName": "Latest_Trend", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/latest_trend/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "A very cool looking car, looks kind of aggressive, leaning forward, ready to run..", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1536841879, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2515168, "authorName": "jkowalski (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jkowalski/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Latest_Trend Thanks. Yes, it's a \"soft\" form, but there is a tautness to it that is accentuated by the tall wheels pushed way out to the corners. In this color, it reminds me of a tree frog: Round eyes, protruding nose, and that stance\u2026It always looks likes it\u2019s gripping the road. It's just cool.", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1536842333, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2515246, "authorName": "bconnell", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/bconnell/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I got to see this in person last weekend, and it\u2019s really impressive how complete the car is. The small trim pieces and chrome that are usually lost over time are intact on this and look like they would clean up really well. I\u2019m 6\u20194\u201d and fit in the front seats just fine, very similar position and cabin space to the period Beetles. Maybe even a bit more room in the rear seats. \r\n\r\nI only have space for 1 project car, and ultimately decided to keep working on my \u201869 TR6. This is going to make for a very cool car for someone.", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1536844847, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2515419, "authorName": "doublefeature56", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/doublefeature56/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I always liked the styling. Something about French cars in general that always brings a certain term to mind....\"foreign car\". glwa", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1536848800, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2515444, "authorName": "manpot", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/manpot/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I always loved the look of these and seeing them racing in the Mille Miglia..I would be tempted to give this car that vintage MM look..that louvred engine cover..beautiful.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1536849329, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2515531, "authorName": "jkowalski (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jkowalski/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@bconnell Thanks, Bill! It was great to meet you both. I was glad you were able to see the Renault up close. (Your TR6 is a lovely thing too). Best regards // Jim", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1536850638, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2515604, "authorName": "eima77", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/eima77/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@jkowalski\r\nGood Morning!\r\nTo The Winning Bidder on This, I for one, Would Really Enjoy a BaT Success Story.\r\nVery Best to You Jim and All That Can Visualize This Brought back to its Potential Beauty \r\nGLWA!\r\nBest Regards \r\n\u263a\ufe0f????", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1536852038, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2516238, "authorName": "philipr26", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/philipr26/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "My husband and I have a 1957 4CV and it is an absolute kick in the pants to drive!! The body is in really great condition but the motor needs the internal fiber gear replaced, which is a bit of a job (not impossible, just a bit of work). Your auction car has a lot going for it and I'm really glad to see some positive momentum. There is a site out of France that also has many old parts for the three French car marquis that we have had pretty good luck with: https://www.melun-retro-passion.com/\r\n\r\nThank you for the earlier lead on the site in Germany - I've bookmarked that site for future use!\r\n\r\nGood luck with the auction - I'm really happy to see this!", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1536862268, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2516522, "authorName": "tintinmilou", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/tintinmilou/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I would love to bring this back to France! I have B&W pictures of my mom and dad and two others with their quatre chevaux with the roof rack piled high as they all went skin-diving in the south of France in 1947.....", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1536865517, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2516591, "authorName": "Fading_Data", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/fading_data/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "As the owner of a BaT 4CV (https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1955-renault-4cv-2/) I can confirm that it is a sweet slow ride that gets lots of attention. There is a wonderful history to these cars as development was begun clandestinely in occupied France in 1940 and released in 1946 as a contributor to the recovery of France with over 1 million units sold. There is race history as well as it participated in the Monte Carlo Rally, the Mille Miglia and finished 23rd (overall!) in the 1953 24hrs of LeMans.", "likes": 7, "timestamp": 1536866022, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2516860, "authorName": "Pinarello", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/pinarello/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I know it may be sacrilege, but I can't help daydreaming about a street rod project here. Not with an SBC over the front wheels, but maybe a rotary or compact 4 with a transaxle mounted in place of the back seat. IRS suspension and modern discs of course. Great lines and suicide doors. Shell and dash look to be in good shape and the rest is so compromised I wouldn't feel too bad hacking into it. Whatever.... I hope the new owner treats it right.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1536868585, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2516881, "authorName": "Lucky7", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/lucky7/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "This would be a very cool, unique car but my, my - a lot of work to make it nice! My wife would murder me in my sleep! And yes @Pinarello - that would be sacrilege.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1536868841, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2516965, "authorName": "Pinarello", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/pinarello/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Lucky7 - Mea culpa! I took a side trip to my Jr. High study hall.", "likes": 3, "timestamp": 1536869587, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2516994, "authorName": "Fordcarguy", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/fordcarguy/", "bidAmount": 1901, "content": "$1,901 bid placed by Fordcarguy", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1536869839, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 2517106, "authorName": "Thwiles", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/thwiles/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "So tempting. In 1953 my parents quit work, bought a 4CV and spent a year tootling around Europe in it. The next car was a \u201856 356A (which I still have). The 4CV died after an encounter which left a milk truck over turned, milk everywhere, and a sobbing (but unhurt) milkman.", "likes": 5, "timestamp": 1536871121, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2517154, "authorName": "jkowalski (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jkowalski/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "We would like to thank everyone for their bids and for all the great comments...B.a.T. is really the coolest car clubhouse on the web.", "likes": 7, "timestamp": 1536871783, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2517189, "authorName": "bconnell", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/bconnell/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@pinatello If the engine and gearbox were shot a 4cv would make an excellent candidate for an electric conversion. It\u2019s so light i\u2019ll bet you could get great speed and range. The engine on this one is so pretty though, i\u2019d hate to take it out.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1536872283, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2517192, "authorName": "jkowalski (The Seller)", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/jkowalski/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@bconnell Google Henney Kilowatt!!!!!", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1536872319, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2517198, "authorName": "eliaswex", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/eliaswex/", "bidAmount": 2050, "content": "$2,050 bid placed by eliaswex", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1536872370, "type": "bat-bid"}, {"id": 2517199, "authorName": "Sittsiara", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/sittsiara/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "This Renault deserves to be saved.\nWe are happy to have Jacques rear engine Renault parts in California who can supply what is needed to make it run after the floor metal is repaired.", "likes": 5, "timestamp": 1536872461, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2517206, "authorName": "eliaswex", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/eliaswex/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Sold on 9/13/18 for $2,050 to eliaswex", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1536872490, "type": "bat-bid-reserve"}, {"id": 2517208, "authorName": "Pinarello", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/pinarello/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "I'm envious of the winner and lucky I was not in a position to bid.", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1536872496, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2517223, "authorName": "Lucky7", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/lucky7/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Congratulations! Do it up stock. Respect the car!", "likes": 4, "timestamp": 1536872646, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2517248, "authorName": "eima77", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/eima77/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@eliaswex\r\nCongratulations! I'm Very Happy For You! Enjoy \r\n@jkowalski\r\nCongratulations, Was Nice to See The bidding go up.\r\nWell Done \r\n\u263a\ufe0f??????", "likes": 0, "timestamp": 1536872869, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2517259, "authorName": "eima77", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/eima77/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@Lucky7\r\nOn Your Comment about This Particular Car, I Agree\r\nBest Regards \r\n\u263a\ufe0f???", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1536872963, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2517287, "authorName": "Pinarello", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/pinarello/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Nice sentiments @eliaswex - Best of luck.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1536873206, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2517279, "authorName": "eliaswex", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/eliaswex/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "yes indeed\nthis is the car I owned and drove 47 years ago when I dated my wife in Israel. Soon will be 45 years since we are married and I am going to drive the car for our anniversary.\nThe car I owned was a car of a very poor man, this car will be redone to make everyone proud.", "likes": 27, "timestamp": 1536873210, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2517507, "authorName": "shakingthrough", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/shakingthrough/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "@BaT - I would like to nominate the last comment for tomorrow's comment of the day.", "likes": 2, "timestamp": 1536875126, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 2519587, "authorName": "Lavaman", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/lavaman/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "That is Awesome!! But do keep us posted!", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1536946131, "type": "comment"}, {"id": 3152925, "authorName": "GRP1234", "authorUrl": "https://bringatrailer.com/member/grp1234/", "bidAmount": 0, "content": "Do you know of any others for sale?\r\nJerry", "likes": 1, "timestamp": 1555455951, "type": "comment"}]